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#430 of 1965
Re: There's already something wrong [chevy598] by kdhspyder
Dec 16, 2006 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: chevy598 (Dec 16, 2006 7:13 pm)

until they get caught or have an accident. Then they lose their house and everything they own. Driving in excess of GVW Rating and losing control and smashing into something destroying, injuring or killing just isn't worth it.
 
For a business owner his liability may not cover him if he's significantly above the GVWR...there goes his business. This isn't backyard **** measuring at a barbeque. This is just keeping it legal and getting the most value for the buck.
 
If a business owner realizes that he has to send out two trucks to do the job that one can do that's literally burning up money and taking equipment from one job when it can be used on another.
#431 of 1965
Re: There's already something wrong [kdhspyder] by explorerx4
Dec 16, 2006 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 16, 2006 7:32 pm)

how much background checking is toyota going to do before they decide it is 'ok' for someone to drive their truck?
#432 of 1965
Re: There's already something wrong [explorerx4] by kdhspyder
Dec 16, 2006 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Dec 16, 2006 7:41 pm)

Huh?
 
None I assume ( j/k right/ ). It's the sheriff's deputies and the insurance adjusters/underwriters that'll decide all that.
 
In addition I've heard but cannot confirm that some states now are requiring any truck with a trailer must stop and go over the scales. Over the GVWR? ... then dump something on the side..after the ticket.
#433 of 1965
Re: Opinion about the Upcoming Tundra [explorerx4] by ggesq
Dec 16, 2006 (7:52 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Dec 16, 2006 7:30 pm)

Huh?
 
f250?
 
I don't get it.
#434 of 1965
Re: There's already something wrong [kdhspyder] by iqbaldhillon2
Dec 16, 2006 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 16, 2006 5:49 pm)

Wow that low. I think a Tacoma can haul more than that. I use to own an '05 Tacoma looked up online they rated it as a 1505 lb payload. If thats true man is the Titan pathetic.
The new Tundra will get about 2100-2300 lbs of payload, almost as much as the Ram.
#435 of 1965
Re: There's already something wrong [kdhspyder] by chevy598
Dec 16, 2006 (8:10 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 16, 2006 7:46 pm)

If Toyota wants to sell 200k trucks a year most of them are going to be to red neck Bob, not business owners. The vast majority of pick ups sold are to individual consumers. The market would be a quarter the size it is now if it was just commercial sales.
#436 of 1965
Interesting! by ustazzaf
Dec 16, 2006 (11:06 pm)
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The rated towing capacity has nothing to do with anything other than what the vehicle can tow without overheating on a test track. That fact is pointed out regularly in the reputable mags. Stopping in an emergency is going to be 90% relied upon by the trailer brakes. Doesn't matter much what the tow vehicle is.
#437 of 1965
I want too make an offer on a dbl cab 4x4" monday" by joe540ci
Dec 17, 2006 (4:55 am)
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The window sticker is $33,640 I do not want to disrespect the dealership with too low of an offer. So I would like to offer $25,640 Thats -$8000. Does anyone know if they will bit on this offer or just laugh at me. Thanks joe
#438 of 1965
Re: There's already something wrong [chevy598] by kdhspyder
Dec 17, 2006 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: chevy598 (Dec 16, 2006 8:10 pm)

Here's one view of how easily the Tundra might get to 200K units if not 300K in 2008.
 
Annual Sales
Ford.... 900,000 units
GM...... 900,000
Dodge... 350,000
Toyota.. 120,000
Nissan.. 60,000
 
Because of ...
an old style, smallest engine, turmoil a the top and 50% of workers leaving Ford loses 20% of it's sales ( 10% GM / 10% Toyota ) - 180,000 units
Dodge which is in an incredible mess ( see Det Press ) with an old design loses 20% of it's sales ( 10% GM / 10% Toyota ). -70,000 units
Nissan with a capable but very limited vehicle ( two cabs, one engine, very limited payload ) lose 10% - 6,000 units
 
GM actually gains sales overall ( Lutz' view ) to 1.0-1.1 Million units. + 150,000 units
Toyota gains the rest of the 'defectors' as well as increasing it's deliveries to current Tundra owners ( + 20% ) + 130,000 units
 
It wouldn't be too hard to envision a jump to 200K+ units in 2008 ( 2007 is only a part year ).
 
However if gas jumps to $4.00/Gal all bets are off, anything could happen.
#439 of 1965
Re: There's already something wrong [kdhspyder] by chevy598
Dec 17, 2006 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 17, 2006 7:01 am)

I think its possible they could sell 200k a year with some good luck, but anything more and were starting to get ahead of ourselves.
For years Dodge has made a living putting attractive sheet metal over unreliable under pinnings, and they still sell 350k a year. Dodge Ram owners are almost as fanatical about their rides as mustang owners. Toyota will have a tough time getting Ram owners to leave their trucks. Even when you drive by in your reliable Tundra and their stuck on the side of the road with a blown transmission.
Fords unveiling their new Super Duty at the NA auto show in January. The Americans pour money into updating their trucks every year. Their so afraid of losing market share in a "bread & Butter" segment.
Check out the long term road review of the Silverado over at Inside Line and you'll see how solid the product choices already are. When a long term review has 3k miles on it and the only complaint is the heater buttons, you can see how competitive the segment is.

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