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#1918 of 1963
Re: just purchased [1972ck] by cajohn54
Jan 05, 2009 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: 1972ck (Jan 05, 2009 11:43 am)

i like short skirts even more now, thanks
#1919 of 1963
no problems by 912money
Jan 13, 2009 (2:05 pm)
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I just joined this forum,and have read a lot of interesting stuff on the 5.7iforce,I have a 07 tundra limited crew max 5.7 with 19971 miles on it an I couldn't be more pleased with it.The only time it goes to the shop is to have the oil changed every 5000 miles.
#1920 of 1963
Piston slap will ruin resale value of all Tundras by Mojaveman
Jan 24, 2009 (7:54 pm)
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The noise that 75% of 5.7 liter engine owners hear for a few minutes after startup is piston slap plain and simple. It is impossible to say without testing and inspection what is causing the slap. It could be the cylinder(s) or piston(s) are out of tolerance. The piston or block could have a manufacturing defect. The piston or block could be poorly engineered. I am sure Toyota knows because the TMC regional rep admitted to me they no longer build the engines like they did in 07 & 08. Typically, a loose piston (if not broken) causes excessive wear of the piston and cylinder wall resulting in increased blowby. This in turn exacerbates the problem further because the loose piston cannot transfer heat to the cylinder adequately. What you have is an engine that, providing something doesn't actually break, wears out much earlier than it should. In a State where smog inspections are done it much more likely that the vehicle will fail the emissions test long before it should have, not to mention degraded performance. Toyota no doubt takes the stand that as long as it lasts at least 100,000 miles, the length of the extended warranty, then who cares. One of the reasons we all bought a Toyota was the reputation of their products for durability which equates to resale value. That expectation no longer applies to the 07 & 08 trucks not only because something is wrong with them but because TMC has not the honor to fully admit the problem and fix it. I am exploring the potential for legal action as this problem is becoming widely recognized in many forums across the Internet and it is time for Tundra owners to get some satisfaction from the manufacturer with respect to repairs and warranty coverage of this issue. The owners of the 3.0 liter T-100s and Tacomas with cast iron blocks and aluminum heads that all had bad head gaskets were ignored until they resorted to legal action. Toyota finally replaced all the head gaskets but unfortunately trucks with those engines are now almost worthless because everyone knows you can't keep a head gasket in one. Is that the future of our 07 & 08 5.7 liter Tundras?
#1921 of 1963
Re: Tundra Issues [kl67] by msalsbury
Jan 28, 2009 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: kl67 (Apr 10, 2008 7:31 am)

Can you tell ne the name of the dealer ( and address or were it is ) that replaced your engine on your 5.7 L . My dealer just says " its normal " .
 
It take at least 15 mintues of driving to get the knock out . Sounds like a diesel
Please if you could email me at : msportraitssalsburystudio.com
 
then I can discuss this with your dealer
#1922 of 1963
CAN I get your dealers Name ... diesel sounding 5.7 [kl67] by msalsbury
Jan 28, 2009 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: kl67 (Mar 17, 2008 5:57 am)

CAN I get your dealers Name
 
Can you tell ne the name of the dealer ( and address or were it is ) that replaced your engine on your 5.7 L . My dealer just says " its normal " .
 
It take at least 15 mintues of driving to get the knock out . Sounds like a diesel
Please if you could email me at : msportraitssalsburystudio.com
 
then I can discuss this with your dealer
#1923 of 1963
ATT Kl 67 Can I get your dealers name by msalsbury
Jan 28, 2009 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: kl67 (Feb 21, 2008 8:18 am)

CAN I get your dealers Name
My dealer just says the engine knock (the diesel sound that last at least 15 minutes or more before it quiets down but does not go away ) they say " its normal " I even listened to my neibours tundra and his does not do that
#1924 of 1963
Re: Piston slap will ruin resale value of all Tundras [Mojaveman] by albamarle
Jan 29, 2009 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: Mojaveman (Jan 24, 2009 7:54 pm)

what truck would you be looking to purchase rather than Toyota Tundra?
 
Chevrolet, Ford, Dodge, Isuzu, Internationals, Freightliners? others?
 
 how many individuals do you think will not purchase remaining 2008s after reading this discussion/ being educated by toyota engineers as to what is progress of investigation / transparency / open dialogue,
 
 is this a sticker for purchase, resale values, detriment to investments for the stockholders? it is design / manufacturing / engineering / or business problem? why does it happen on some as opposed to others? what type diagnostics are needed to discern this problem on others that may have not heard?
 
Do the vehicles in question have similarity ,,time date manufactured?
one run two runs,,what type numbers quanify recall?
 
reason for lower prices in Texas? discounts showing tundratalk.net 21.56% to 26% realcartips.com will the discount grow greater as time wanes on? will anyone purchase 2009s 2010s for fear that the problem will manifest without follow up?
 
a potential custome wants to know these things in advance,
having nvever worked with toyota before.
 
 what has changed with Toyota and spirit of excellence?
#1925 of 1963
Re: ATT Kl 67 Can I get your dealers name [msalsbury] by albamarle
Jan 29, 2009 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: msalsbury (Jan 28, 2009 7:51 am)

based on your estimate the damage being done by the noise/slap problem area>>will cause engine to fail prior to the 100,000 mark or the amount of damage being done is unknown,,could be more or could be less than needed to make engine fail before warranty runs out. what increases Damage to problem area?
 
 What after the 100,000 mile mark with noise issue being detected prior
 to 100,000 mile mark>>#1 customer inquiries, #1001 customer inquiries
 
Toyota will Replace Engine with other associated mechanics problems
  all in Good Faith at What Cost to Consumer? at What Cost to Stockholder?
$20k turning into $40k actual cost of vehicle to be determined?
 
Cost benefit Ratio How many actually will notice? How many will actually contact Dealer? How many will actually know that this is Toyota's problem and not consumer? Did you change your oil? Did you change your transmission? You had work done to vehicle outside the Dealership? Does this void the warranty?
 
Free of charge , to consumer, parts and labor ,,handshake,,Moving Forward
#1926 of 1963
LOL by kdhspyder
Jan 29, 2009 (7:33 am)
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I'm sorry but those are two of the most unintelligible posts I've ever seen. What language are they written in?
#1927 of 1963
survey 100K plus miles on newer Alabama 5.7Liter versus Japanese 5.7Liter by albamarle
Jan 29, 2009 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 29, 2009 7:33 am)

maybe the posters who have problems,
with piston slap engine noise damage, are isolated issues
 
this group seems to be very consistent
alot more toyota messages than other brands
 
possibly someone know s 2007 2008 5.7L owners who do have 100k miles
on truck ,,extra ordinary but perhaps uncle friend neighbor, person work
mechanic who works on american vs japanese tundra 5.7Liters
 
what is the response of driver with mulitiple miles
behind wheel of newer engine,,short piston?

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