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You are in the Toyota Tundra
What is this discussion about?
#162 of 2007 Re: I surprised you think Toyota didn't sweat the details? [callmedrfill]
Feb 10, 2006 (8:32 am)
Yeah, I suppose "loaded" you could spend $40k on a Ford F150, maybe. But I was with my friend when he bought a 2005 F150 XLT 4x4 crew with the 5.4 engine for $26,500, after all the rebate/discount nonsense was done. Do you really think the new Tundra, similarly equiped in SR5 trim, will sell in that price range? I just think if Toyota premium prices this thing, it ought to have the most modern features, like side air bags, standard. (Who knows, maybe it will.) Heck, Honda did it on the Ridgeline (that everybody loves to hate).
#163 of 2007 MSRPs will be similar
Feb 10, 2006 (11:10 am)
Transaction prices much higher, as supply won't be what Ford's is, and Toyota hasn't built a reputation over the past 5 years for "Giving away the Store".
Toyota customers expect to pay a little more, but get a lot more value.
#164 of 2007 does it handle a plow????
Feb 10, 2006 (11:23 am)
rorr and saddaddy, both of you i guess are defending this truck as heavy duty ,am i right? in other words guys are going to trade in there f250s and 350s and D2500 for this , if so i needs to handle a heavy duty plow period !!or no serious landscaper will go near it.
what is the sense of building this truck ,the tundra as it sits goes up against the 1/2 ton ford, chevy,and dodge.
i,m on truck # 17 nobody here can give me an education on pickup trucks .........paul
Feb 10, 2006 (12:42 pm)
Its looks awkward with the puny tires and wheels.
GM/FORD/DODGE have nothing to worry about...
#166 of 2007 Re: 07 Tundra [donthegreek]
Feb 10, 2006 (1:34 pm)
ok how are the tires puny and the "wheels" make it look akward?
if anything GM and Ford will still have to worry even if this truck is not sucessful
While we're cutting jobs, they are making better cars
#167 of 2007 Not for tall drivers?
Feb 10, 2006 (1:36 pm)
I look at that dashboard design, and think, "Damm, now where will my knees go?" One thing I really like about the current dash design is that you can spread your legs a bit, and your knees don't strike the dashboard.
This new design (http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121001&page=2.), there's a giant gearshift poking into your thigh, and the extruded center dashpanel tapers INTO the steering column. No room for us bigger guys anymore (I'm 6'-7"). It's sad. All new truck bigger in all dimensions except driver's knee room.
Also note the very deep glove box in the passenger side. Right up against your shins if you are tall.
Stupid stupid stupid! I'm so tired of vehicles not fitting because of inferior design, not because of lack of space!
#168 of 2007 Re: MSRPs will be similar [callmedrfill]
Feb 10, 2006 (1:50 pm)
I thought the point wasn't just to sell to "Toyota customers" but pull guys away from the domestics. I think price will matter.
#169 of 2007 Re: does it handle a plow???? [pjaln]
Feb 10, 2006 (2:13 pm)
"...in other words guys are going to trade in there f250s and 350s and D2500 for this..."
I'm not sure whose lines you're reading between but you need to take another look.
Nobody said the new Tundra was designed to lure serious f250/f350 owners out of their trucks. The target for the new Tundra is the F150.
Ford/GM/Dodge sells about a billion of these (okay - slight exaggeration) in Texas every year and I think it fair to say that the % of these trucks which see regular snowplow duty here in the Lone Star state is on the small side. Can the new Tundra handle a snow plow? I've got no idea. But if the Tundra puts a dent in the Texas truck market, you can bet the domestics WILL take notice.
"...or no serious landscaper will go near it."
What features would a 'serious landscaper' be looking for in a F150 that they would not find in the new Tundra?
BTW - what is it about the Tundra which would prevent it from snow plow duty? Just curious.....
Feb 10, 2006 (2:30 pm)
Are you saying domestic shoppers only buy trucks based on price?
Toyota, in comparisons, will have to prove their truck is better, noticably, then the domestics. Then Toyota will have a chance to sell for the same, or a little more.
It's all about "perceived value". Tundras aren't seen as being on the same level as the domestics.
Maybe the new one will change that.
Toyota knows they can't price it $1-2k higher than the F-150. they know how to price a vehicle, better than the domestics, obviously, since they don't have to discount them $4k each to sell 'em.
#171 of 2007 Re: MrJ [callmedrfill]
Feb 10, 2006 (5:08 pm)
If I can buy a new 4x4 Tundra for $28k equiped at the SR5 level, Toyota will have asale. I am not holding my breath though.