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#4709 of 5103 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [woodstockguy]
Jan 18, 2011 (1:37 am)
I noticed the "woodstock" in your user name and wondered if it Woodtock, GA...I'm a Cherokee County native, born and raised, I live up in the northwest corner of the county in Waleska, several miles beyond Reinhardt College. I moved away for about 7 years, if you consider Vinings as "moving away"! =)
I knew for certain that you had to live in Cherokee (or Cobb) based on the 6% sales tax rate. We're the only two counties north of Atlanta that aren't 7%...lucky us!
I took a look at the 2010 Mazda3 5-door inventory in the Atlanta area and it looks like this car is at Jim Ellis in Marietta....correct? There are only five 2010 5-door Grand Touring 6MT models in the state. Two of them are IDENTICAL- Velocity Red MIca, Bose/Moonroof Pkg, Technology Pkg- sticker price of $25,485. One is at Jim Ellis in Marietta and the other is at Moss Robertson Cadillac-Mazda in Gainesville. You might want to send them and email for a quote just to see what they might offer...if they go lower, you could either buy from them or get Jim Ellis to match it...just thought I'd mention that.
The Velocity Red looks awesome with the black grille and trim on the front- UGA colors! I have a Titanium Gray 2006 Mazda3 s 5-door with Black & Red checked cloth interior. I've always called it my UGA interior. =) Back in 12/05 when I was shopping for my Mazda, it wasn't easy tracking down one with the right colors/options/transmission and when you did, dealers weren't willing to discount them very much! I ended up going to Knoxville, TN to buy mine!
Let me double check the current incentives and a few other things and I'll get back to you very shortly.....
#4710 of 5103 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [woodstockguy]
Jan 18, 2011 (2:04 am)
The Dealer Cost on the car is $23,587 minus $1500 Dealer Cash for a total of $22,087. Here's how I arrived at that figure-
Base Vehicle- $20,734 (same as invoice price)
Dealer Holdback- (332) (% the MSRP that they get from Mazda)
Options - $2,228 (invoice pricing)
Regional Ad Fees- $207 (from TrueCar.com)
TOTAL COST- $23,587
Dealer Cash- (1,500)
Adjusted Total- $22,587
So they're selling it at $22,485, which is $398 over true cost plus their $399 fee which means they're making $797 on the deal at $24,300 OTD! It's a fair deal as it stands, IMO. There may still be another $200 or so in wiggle room, if you're up for a little haggling...can't hurt!
Mazda also has a special low-APR financing incentive on the 2010 valid thru 1/31/11. It is 0.0% APR for up to 60-months PLUS $750 Customer Cash packaged with it. So your $22,485 could end up being only $21,735! To the best of my knowledge, you can use both the $1500 Dealer Cash incentive AND the 0% APR with Bonus Cash.
Getting the 0% APR deal and $750 Customer Cash requires you to use Mazda's "captive" lender. And this offer is only valid for "well qualified" buyers. With the $750 applied to the total, the payments would only be $392 for 60-months and that's before any down payment! If you put $2500 down, the payment would drop down to $350.
By the way, don't worry about the Velocity Red being a "young" color for your age! I've been seriously thinking about buying a new 5-door s Sport for months and I have my heart SET on one color- Celestial Blue! That's the 'electric blue' that's the polar opposite of 'subtle'!!! Not a color folks expect a 36-year old accountant to choose, but I love it!
But I'm leaning toward a 2010 Mazda6 i Touring Plus 4-door now instead of another Mazda3 5-door. If I get the MZ6, it willl be Kona Blue with Black cloth interior!
#4711 of 5103 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [igozoomzoom]
Jan 18, 2011 (5:32 am)
Now my other decision is a new '10 the Speed3 w/Tech package that is discounted for OTD of 23616.-Good deal but do I really need the temptation of getting a "super speeder" ticket?
#4712 of 5103 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [woodstockguy]
Jan 18, 2011 (6:31 am)
Beside the 'Super Speeder' issue-
Fuel economy drops by 2mpg city and 3mpg highway
18/25mpg vs. 20/28mpg
PREMIUM FUEL is required on the MAZDASPEED3
Here are conservative estimates at the additional operating costs of the SPEED3...
Extra costs over 5yrs/75k miles-
FEATURES you would lose if you went with the SPEED3-
Heated, leather seats
8-way Power driver's seat with memory
Bi-Xenon HID (High Intensity Discharge) headlights w/ auto-leveling
Auto on/off headlight control
Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS) - swivels lights into turns
Heated side mirrors
One other thing to consider is the standard tires-
P225/40YR18 BSW performance
Dunlop SP Sport 2050 (Ultra-High Performance Summer)
$243 per tire at Kauffman Tire
no treadlife warranty, avg. less than 30k
$120 each for P205/50VR17 Dunlop SP Sport Signature for the s GT 5-door
They are a High-Performance All-Season with 60k treadlife warranty
Between the larger width and diameter and the much more aggressive 'Y' speed rating paired with the 'sport' suspension upgrades...very harsh ride that would get old very fast! =)
Consumer Reports also shows it as having a lot more reliability issues than the regular Mazda3. The engine in particular has been problematic in the MAZDASPEED3 and the CX-7 SUV.
We're too old for that crap!...and I'm 'only' 36! =)
#4713 of 5103 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [woodstockguy]
Jan 18, 2011 (1:21 pm)
I purchased my 2010 Mazdaspeed 3 just before Christmas. It is black with the tech package. The dealer in Redwood City, CA had 2 on the lot and they matched the advertised price of another dealer in San Jose, CA ($21,800 ~$4K off sticker). Worked with the Internet Manager, Jessica, and it was the most pain free negotiation I have ever experienced in buying a car from a dealer.
I owned a Protege5 for almost 10 years, so I am very familiar with the Mazda product. Love the Mazdaspeed 3 thus far. Good power, nice handling, and good content for the price. Wasn't too sure if I would like the Smart Key, but I LOVE it now. I love being able to just climb in, hit the start button, and take off.
Gripes: Clutch pedal is a bit binary. Tough for me to get consistently smooth shifts (and I have been driving sticks for 25 years). Not an issue on the Mazda3 S I test drove however.... Fuel mileage is a bit disappointing so far for me (avg 22 mpg), but I suspect that will improve as the engine "breaks in". No water temp/oil pressure gauges...really???
All in all, a great car and a ton of bang for the buck. Very happy with it.
#4714 of 5103 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [garv214]
Jan 27, 2011 (11:53 am)
I purchased the 2010 Grand Touring fully loaded-had them knock ocff another $475 off the price. I looked at the cost of ownership for the Speed and decided to skip it this go around since insurance with 3 teens in the family was scary.
The clutch was also an issue with the Speed since I do alot of driving in metro-Atlanta. I am from Cherokee county and have a stop and go commute from Woodstock to work-the Mazda3 manual is easy to shift and actually makes the commute more interesting.
First week(after teaching the kids how to drive a stick) my avg mpg on the trip computer is 26mpg-makes me smile. I know it will get better after the initial "fun" of a sporty little car wears off....that may take a while
Great car! BTW- Did purchase at Jim Ellis in Marietta-good folks to work with and didn't play any games.
#4715 of 5103 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [igozoomzoom]
Jan 27, 2011 (5:00 pm)
I agree with everything you note...that's why I bought the loaded 3-great car with plenty of "get up and go."
Got another $475 on the deal-dealer net was -46$ but that doesn't include
"Mr. Ellis's" fee. Have some additional info in the thread when I replied to gary from CA. BTW-live in Woodstock-Towne Lake area...so if ya see a Red 3 in traffic on 575 could be me..with a grin!
#4716 of 5103 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [woodstockguy]
Jan 30, 2011 (12:45 am)
The Grand Touring is definitely a nice car. 3 teens in the house...yikes... I won't have to worry about that for a few years to come (mine are 5 and 4), but that is definitely food for thought when it comes time to replace the speed 3.
I am suspicious of my trip computer. The 1st 2 tanks have displayed 24+mpg, but I calculated closer to 22 mpg based on mileage and gallons used to fill the tank.
Congrats on your car!
#4717 of 5103 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [woodstockguy]
Jan 30, 2011 (10:18 am)
You taught your kids how to drive on YOUR own car??? BRAVE MAN! =)
What part of town do you work in? When I first moved back up to the 'boondocks', I drove 108 miles round-trip every day to Windy Hill Rd. I was on the road a minimum of three hours and, quite often, closer to four hours. I realized just how supportive and comfortable the awesome seats in my '06 Mazda3 s 5-door were. But I also got so sick of shifting constantly in stop-and-go (gridlock, actually)! Thankfully, I only had to make that commute for eight months..
As for fuel economy, 26mpg is very good considering that the vehicle is still so new and you're probably still adjusting to it also. I average 25-27mpg overall in my 2006 MZ3 (2.3L 5MT) and highway trip mileage has never been over 29mpg. Then again, I always run 80-85mph on those highway trips, so the fuel economy would almost certainly be improved at a steady 70mph or so.
In stop-and-go driving, my mileage was rarely over 24mpg. But in exchange for a few mpg, you have extra power/acceleration readily available whenever you need it! As much as I loved my Hondas and Acuras, I don't miss waiting for the tach to hit 5000rpm to get any serious power!
Anyway, congrats on the new ride and the great deal! I haven't seen many Velocity Red MZ3s in the wild (even though they look awesome), so I'll keep an eye out for you! =)
#4718 of 5103 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [garv214]
Jan 30, 2011 (10:24 am)
I have read a number of posts on Mazda boards mentioning the same thing w/mpg on trip comp vs actual calculated. Most from Speed3 owners. Have seen everything from 16-30. I am going to start a log to compare. Lots of variables that even the Mazda's "brain" can miss.
I have a 1971 Buick GS w/sb 350 and it ranges from 8mpg to 16 mpg-dictated entirely by how many traffic rules I break-so a "constant" with the Mazda makes me a little skeptical-cause I violate the rules in that too.
Teens(even w/o tickets)= automatic 25% increase-boys even worse. By the time yours are old enough to drive we will be plugging in our cars at night instead of filling up!