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#4706 of 5092 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [woodstockguy]
Jan 16, 2011 (5:30 pm)
Edmunds True Market Value (TMV) for a 2010 Mazda3 s GT 5-door, 6MT, Moonroof/Bose pkg, Tech Pkg is $22,261. So 22,485 is barely $200 higher, so it sounds like a good deal! The MSRP is $25,485, so it looks like the dealer knocked an even $3k off sticker price. FYI- if you didn't already know, Mazda is providing a $1500 Cash to Dealer incentive, so the dealer is actually discounting the car $1500 as well.
BUT, I need more info before I can say whether $24,300 OTD is still just as good a deal! What does the $1815 difference (between $22,485 and $24,300) consist of? What is your sales tax rate and do you pay it on the full price of the car or did you have a trade that would reduce the taxable amount? What else is in that amount- any extra fees or charges?
BTW, what color is it? Mostly out of curiosity, but if it's the Pearl White that costs $200 extra....
#4707 of 5092 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [igozoomzoom]
Jan 16, 2011 (6:46 pm)
Thanks for the feedback-sticker is 25485 and they took off 3000 to net 22485. tax=1373.10, dealer fee is 399 and title is 42 for the OTD of 24300.
From what you mentioned there is another 1500 to work with? No trade -either cash or finance.
The car is the Mica Red-really like the metallic flake. Kind of a "young" color for a 49 year old guy but I like it!
#4708 of 5092 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [igozoomzoom]
Jan 16, 2011 (7:48 pm)
BTW-I am in the same market you are in so the incentives should be the same-I',m thinking 22,300 OTD which includes the 1500 cash to dealer incentive. Worth a shot.
#4709 of 5092 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [woodstockguy]
Jan 18, 2011 (1:37 am)
I noticed the "woodstock" in your user name and wondered if it Woodtock, GA...I'm a Cherokee County native, born and raised, I live up in the northwest corner of the county in Waleska, several miles beyond Reinhardt College. I moved away for about 7 years, if you consider Vinings as "moving away"! =)
I knew for certain that you had to live in Cherokee (or Cobb) based on the 6% sales tax rate. We're the only two counties north of Atlanta that aren't 7%...lucky us!
I took a look at the 2010 Mazda3 5-door inventory in the Atlanta area and it looks like this car is at Jim Ellis in Marietta....correct? There are only five 2010 5-door Grand Touring 6MT models in the state. Two of them are IDENTICAL- Velocity Red MIca, Bose/Moonroof Pkg, Technology Pkg- sticker price of $25,485. One is at Jim Ellis in Marietta and the other is at Moss Robertson Cadillac-Mazda in Gainesville. You might want to send them and email for a quote just to see what they might offer...if they go lower, you could either buy from them or get Jim Ellis to match it...just thought I'd mention that.
The Velocity Red looks awesome with the black grille and trim on the front- UGA colors! I have a Titanium Gray 2006 Mazda3 s 5-door with Black & Red checked cloth interior. I've always called it my UGA interior. =) Back in 12/05 when I was shopping for my Mazda, it wasn't easy tracking down one with the right colors/options/transmission and when you did, dealers weren't willing to discount them very much! I ended up going to Knoxville, TN to buy mine!
Let me double check the current incentives and a few other things and I'll get back to you very shortly.....
#4710 of 5092 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [woodstockguy]
Jan 18, 2011 (2:04 am)
The Dealer Cost on the car is $23,587 minus $1500 Dealer Cash for a total of $22,087. Here's how I arrived at that figure-
Base Vehicle- $20,734 (same as invoice price)
Dealer Holdback- (332) (% the MSRP that they get from Mazda)
Options - $2,228 (invoice pricing)
Regional Ad Fees- $207 (from TrueCar.com)
TOTAL COST- $23,587
Dealer Cash- (1,500)
Adjusted Total- $22,587
So they're selling it at $22,485, which is $398 over true cost plus their $399 fee which means they're making $797 on the deal at $24,300 OTD! It's a fair deal as it stands, IMO. There may still be another $200 or so in wiggle room, if you're up for a little haggling...can't hurt!
Mazda also has a special low-APR financing incentive on the 2010 valid thru 1/31/11. It is 0.0% APR for up to 60-months PLUS $750 Customer Cash packaged with it. So your $22,485 could end up being only $21,735! To the best of my knowledge, you can use both the $1500 Dealer Cash incentive AND the 0% APR with Bonus Cash.
Getting the 0% APR deal and $750 Customer Cash requires you to use Mazda's "captive" lender. And this offer is only valid for "well qualified" buyers. With the $750 applied to the total, the payments would only be $392 for 60-months and that's before any down payment! If you put $2500 down, the payment would drop down to $350.
By the way, don't worry about the Velocity Red being a "young" color for your age! I've been seriously thinking about buying a new 5-door s Sport for months and I have my heart SET on one color- Celestial Blue! That's the 'electric blue' that's the polar opposite of 'subtle'!!! Not a color folks expect a 36-year old accountant to choose, but I love it!
But I'm leaning toward a 2010 Mazda6 i Touring Plus 4-door now instead of another Mazda3 5-door. If I get the MZ6, it willl be Kona Blue with Black cloth interior!
#4711 of 5092 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [igozoomzoom]
Jan 18, 2011 (5:32 am)
Now my other decision is a new '10 the Speed3 w/Tech package that is discounted for OTD of 23616.-Good deal but do I really need the temptation of getting a "super speeder" ticket?
#4712 of 5092 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [woodstockguy]
Jan 18, 2011 (6:31 am)
Beside the 'Super Speeder' issue-
Fuel economy drops by 2mpg city and 3mpg highway
18/25mpg vs. 20/28mpg
PREMIUM FUEL is required on the MAZDASPEED3
Here are conservative estimates at the additional operating costs of the SPEED3...
Extra costs over 5yrs/75k miles-
FEATURES you would lose if you went with the SPEED3-
Heated, leather seats
8-way Power driver's seat with memory
Bi-Xenon HID (High Intensity Discharge) headlights w/ auto-leveling
Auto on/off headlight control
Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS) - swivels lights into turns
Heated side mirrors
One other thing to consider is the standard tires-
P225/40YR18 BSW performance
Dunlop SP Sport 2050 (Ultra-High Performance Summer)
$243 per tire at Kauffman Tire
no treadlife warranty, avg. less than 30k
$120 each for P205/50VR17 Dunlop SP Sport Signature for the s GT 5-door
They are a High-Performance All-Season with 60k treadlife warranty
Between the larger width and diameter and the much more aggressive 'Y' speed rating paired with the 'sport' suspension upgrades...very harsh ride that would get old very fast! =)
Consumer Reports also shows it as having a lot more reliability issues than the regular Mazda3. The engine in particular has been problematic in the MAZDASPEED3 and the CX-7 SUV.
We're too old for that crap!...and I'm 'only' 36! =)
#4713 of 5092 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [woodstockguy]
Jan 18, 2011 (1:21 pm)
I purchased my 2010 Mazdaspeed 3 just before Christmas. It is black with the tech package. The dealer in Redwood City, CA had 2 on the lot and they matched the advertised price of another dealer in San Jose, CA ($21,800 ~$4K off sticker). Worked with the Internet Manager, Jessica, and it was the most pain free negotiation I have ever experienced in buying a car from a dealer.
I owned a Protege5 for almost 10 years, so I am very familiar with the Mazda product. Love the Mazdaspeed 3 thus far. Good power, nice handling, and good content for the price. Wasn't too sure if I would like the Smart Key, but I LOVE it now. I love being able to just climb in, hit the start button, and take off.
Gripes: Clutch pedal is a bit binary. Tough for me to get consistently smooth shifts (and I have been driving sticks for 25 years). Not an issue on the Mazda3 S I test drove however.... Fuel mileage is a bit disappointing so far for me (avg 22 mpg), but I suspect that will improve as the engine "breaks in". No water temp/oil pressure gauges...really???
All in all, a great car and a ton of bang for the buck. Very happy with it.
#4714 of 5092 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [garv214]
Jan 27, 2011 (11:53 am)
I purchased the 2010 Grand Touring fully loaded-had them knock ocff another $475 off the price. I looked at the cost of ownership for the Speed and decided to skip it this go around since insurance with 3 teens in the family was scary.
The clutch was also an issue with the Speed since I do alot of driving in metro-Atlanta. I am from Cherokee county and have a stop and go commute from Woodstock to work-the Mazda3 manual is easy to shift and actually makes the commute more interesting.
First week(after teaching the kids how to drive a stick) my avg mpg on the trip computer is 26mpg-makes me smile. I know it will get better after the initial "fun" of a sporty little car wears off....that may take a while
Great car! BTW- Did purchase at Jim Ellis in Marietta-good folks to work with and didn't play any games.
#4715 of 5092 Re: Price on 2010 Mazda 3 Grand Touring Hatch [igozoomzoom]
Jan 27, 2011 (5:00 pm)
I agree with everything you note...that's why I bought the loaded 3-great car with plenty of "get up and go."
Got another $475 on the deal-dealer net was -46$ but that doesn't include
"Mr. Ellis's" fee. Have some additional info in the thread when I replied to gary from CA. BTW-live in Woodstock-Towne Lake area...so if ya see a Red 3 in traffic on 575 could be me..with a grin!