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#3778 of 4322 Re: Buying a 2009 MAZDA3 HB Auto s Touring [ogurek] by ellaa Dec 19, 2008 (9:02 pm)
Replying to: ogurek (Dec 19, 2008 7:47 pm) Fair price to me is what you believe is a fair price. Fair price may not be the lowest anyone ever paid, but rather a price that lets you feel as though you made a reasonable deal. You can second guess yourself and over analyse, but ultimately you need to decide on a number. In your post you want to do better than I did and think that should be possible since its year end. That seems like reasonable thinking, so how much lower is something you need to decide feels fair. They aren't going to give the car away, but you shouldn't pay more than you want to. Pick your number, remain with your number, walk if they don't like it. Try it at another dealer, walk if they don't like it. Wait for the calls, if none, re-assess whether your view of fair is unattainable, if it is, set a new fair price in your mind and repeat. Each dealership visit is a learning opportunity.   Good luck with your negotiation.
#3779 of 4322 is this good enough for Mazda 3 i touring value by luckyforever1 Dec 22, 2008 (2:59 pm)
Hi Guys:   I got an quote for 2008 Mazda 3 i touring value (Auto), at a price of 14950 plue sales tax and title etc. Is it a good deal?   I like blue, but they only have a 2009 available in blue. I was told I need to pay 1000 more.I read on the board that $500 should be the difference between 2008 and 2009.   Can someone shed some light, should I negotiate more for 2009?   thanks much.
#3780 of 4322 by oldfashioned Dec 22, 2008 (7:00 pm)
what is the absolute most I can expect off of the msrp of an 08 and and 09 mazda 3
#3781 of 4322 Re: Buying a 2009 MAZDA3 HB Auto s Touring [cenbit] by jatec Dec 23, 2008 (3:24 pm)
Replying to: cenbit (Dec 19, 2008 5:18 pm) ok, tried my luck today   3k is pretty much out of the range with financing,   but 2k should be possible with cash payments for a 09.   won't hurt to go start off really low. Negotaited for about 2 hours, and was close to a deal with 0% financing. will see if they call me back. Replies to this message: whinnfjord (Dec 23, 2008 8:08 pm)
#3782 of 4322 Re: Buying a 2009 MAZDA3 HB Auto s Touring [jatec] by whinnfjord Dec 23, 2008 (8:08 pm)
Replying to: jatec (Dec 23, 2008 3:24 pm) I just bought an 08 Mazda 3 i Touring Value Edition sedan with manual transmission equipped with the moonroof/in-dash 6cd changer package for ~$3500 under sticker including the $2k incentive (for a total of $14700 including destination/delivery). This seems to be a very good deal based on my research on the dealer cost of this car on edmunds (appears to be ~200-300 below cost before holdback which will probably make it a wash financially for the dealer because the doc fee was a not completely unreasonable $289). I probably could have gotten another $200 or so more off if I had waited another week and let them sweat a little, but this was the color that I really liked (stormy blue mica) with the sunroof that I wanted and I didn't really feel like risking them selling it while I was trying to squeeze a little bit more out. Also, since the $2000 incentive cannot be combined with the 0% financing deal, I arranged financing through Bank of America and got a very good rate. I would highly recommend checking them out if you have good credit, they were the lowest rate that I could locate.   I also received an offer of $14449 plus tax, tags, etc for a Mazda 3 s Sport with no additional options from Capital Mazda in cary, NC, but I went with the i Touring Value Edition because of the better gas mileage, sunroof, and car color. Speak with Rick Pederson, he was absolutely fantastic and very helpful in getting me a very good price from the sales manager.   The other solid option that I received was from City Mazda in Greensboro, NC for $14500 (since reduced to $14300 which still wasn't enough for me since the car already had 350 miles on the odometer but by then it was too late and I was already in the process of accepting the offer for the car that I ended up buying. I offered $14k on it, but was told no dice and 2 days later I had found the car that I wanted.)   Hope this helps everyone out know what exactly is available if you're in the market for an 08 Mazda 3.   Best of luck to everyone and Merry Christmas!!!
#3783 of 4322 mazda 3 prices by protege2000 Dec 25, 2008 (12:46 pm)
Thanks for all the helpful information. I've been working with a few dealers on purchasing a Mazda3. One dealership said $2,000 under invoice on any 08 and $1,000 under invoice on any 09. Another dealer gave OTD of 18,273 on an 08 touring hatchback, auto. To compare apples to apples, what should I shoot for dealer invoice wise? I'm getting conflicting information on loyalty rebates, some say yes, and others no. What gives? The squeeze in on, with 1/5/09 coming soon. Thanks Replies to this message: whinnfjord (Dec 25, 2008 8:27 pm)
#3784 of 4322 Re: mazda 3 prices [protege2000] by whinnfjord Dec 25, 2008 (8:27 pm)
Replying to: protege2000 (Dec 25, 2008 12:46 pm) The dealership that I ended up buying from did offer me an additional $500 in loyalty cash for current Mazda owners, but I couldn't take advantage since this is the first Mazda that my family has ever owned! None of the other dealers mentioned this additional $500 loyalty cash, but one dealer did offer to sell me the car for "$1650 below invoice"...I almost replied to his email that I happen to know that there's a $2k incentive on the vehicle and that I'm not an idiot, but decided to take the high road and just not respond.   As far as "out the door" pricing goes, I find that it's rather hard to compare between users because we very well may live in different states that charge different tax and tag and registration fees (I live in NC where my tax rate is 3%, the dealership doc fee was $289 which was a good bit lower than some others out there but wasn't the absolute lowest I had ever heard of, and tags were some other amount that I don't remember). All of that being said, I was offered $14700 via an internet quote (including destination/delivery) plus tax, tags, and doc fees for an "out the door" price of ~$15609 (not sure of that last digit but it's in that ballpark) for a 2008.5 i Touring Value edition with manual transmission and the moonroof/6cd package. The MSRP was $18355 as listed on the sticker, so I figure I got the car for $3655 under MSRP which seems very good to me (I did other research into dealer cost which also said this was a good deal, but this metric was the easiest to list in the forums).   Like I also said, I was offered a base 08 s Sport for $14449 plus tax, tags, and doc ($397 at this particular dealership) which I felt was a good deal, but I wanted the 2.0L engine for better fuel economy (not that it was that much better in terms of mileage, but it was cheaper and I couldn't really tell a whole lot of a difference in terms of responsiveness and acceleration!). I considered a hatchback, but really didn't like that you had to get the 2.3L engine in the hatch and I didn't really "need" the added versatility that it affords because my wife has a Ford Escape that we can use to carry around bigger items. So all of that pushed me into the i Touring value edition package since they made a lot of options standard and didn't raise the price all that much over the earlier 08 i Touring vehicles.   Assuming you don't know this already, Mazda has a great feature on their website where you can search all of the cars on their dealer's lots and show you those that are available in your selected model/trim level (link title). When you find a car that you are interested in that has the options that you are interested in, you can then click the "request a quote" button and input your information and the dealer will email you a quote on the car that you want (most of the time!)   I'm not too familiar with s Touring HB pricing, so I'm afraid I can't say whether the price you were quoted was good or not, but there are enough resources out there that you should be able to calculate the actual dealer cost of the vehicles that you are interested in and even account for dealer holdback in the equation (2% of base MSRP for Mazda from what I have seen on the net). At this rate, you really should not be paying anything more than what the dealer payed for the vehicle (+/- $100-$200 depending on how long you are willing to wait and play a game of chicken).   Remember to always be willing to walk out if they don't meet your definition of a fair price for the vehicle and always try to get a quote in writing via email so that they will have a lot harder time changing the terms of the quote when you finally do get a deal that will get you to come into the dealership. You earned that money, make sure that you don't give it away any more than you have to!   I hope this helps you out and good luck with the purchase!
#3785 of 4322 2009 mazda3 itv otd figure by protege2000 Dec 26, 2008 (11:03 am)
Just received my best quote so far. For an 09 i Touring Value with moonroof, 6-cd package, cargo net, wheel locks, auto trans, the mspr was 18,736, inv 17,564, a $1,000 incentive, $500 loyalty rebate, $500 cash back for using 0% financing for three years, plus 6% sales tax, plus $148.50 for paperwork. Final otd price is 16,646.50. I've requested that information in an email, although I already have it in an email, it is kind of messy, so I requested a more clear cut format. Real nice salesman. When I asked him about any used 3 cars, he said with the incentives, rebates, and financing, the new ones were not much more than the 07 models, which is exactly what I've been seeing.
#3786 of 4322 correction! by protege2000 Dec 26, 2008 (1:26 pm)
Too many hours in front of the computer with too many numbers messed with my brain. The figures on the previous post were correct, but it doesn't have the 6-cd/moonroof package, nor cargo net or wheel locks, that was another car I was looking at. Sorry. Replies to this message: whinnfjord (Dec 26, 2008 4:31 pm)
#3787 of 4322 Re: correction! [protege2000] by whinnfjord Dec 26, 2008 (4:31 pm)
Replying to: protege2000 (Dec 26, 2008 1:26 pm) I was looking at those figures and said "holy crap, that's a great price on an 09!"   Makes a little more sense if that price doesn't include the moonroof/6-cd package or the cargo net and wheel locks, but still not a bad price if you're set on an 09. The 08's seem to be about 500-1k below the price of the 09's. Personally, I don't care what year the car is since there's little to no difference between the late 08's and the 09's as long as the car is new and doesn't have many miles (one that I looked at had 350+ miles on it already and it was "new"!!!). There do seem to be some 08's still available and they have a $2k incentive on them, but no 0% financing is available (I crunched the numbers and determined that the difference between the $500 with the promo 0% rate and the $2000 with the 4.9% interest rate I could get with BofA worked out such that the latter ($2k) scenario was about $750 cheaper over the life of the loan (36mo)).

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