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Mazda MAZDA3, Hatchback, Sedan
#3772 of 5092 Re: Buying a 2009 MAZDA3 HB Auto s Touring [jatec]
Dec 17, 2008 (9:57 pm)
i guess that makes some sense. btw, how do you know it for a fact? do you have connections?
i wish i had those helpful sort of people with me at the dealer for haggling, but thats not going to happen. it almost seems like a bizarre game of chicken, to see who will blink first.
all i figure is that dealers should be pretty desperate to unload their 2008s, since its the last two weeks in december 08 and 2010 models are on the horizon.
btw, when i contacted wayne about the 19000 otd price, they actually said that 19000 was not possible for this model (this is with the moonroof/cd) and that open road was using shady tactics and that is why they cant match it. this makes me think that im getting pretty close to the bottom line.
that being said, i plan to go to open road mazda on saturday (the car w/o those options) and mention that at wayne mazda id be getting a moonroof and 6 cd changer for only 350 more. if they cant beat it, then off to wayne i go.
im paying cash cause i hate paying interest. i enjoy the conversation, its like we're all helping each other
btw, i also contacted crystal mazda, and they were pretty firm at their 09 price, near invoice. no 08 model was available for my configuration. i dont know if you tried them.
#3773 of 5092 Re: Buying a 2009 MAZDA3 HB Auto s Touring [ogurek]
Dec 17, 2008 (10:41 pm)
Thanks for the feed, i just got back a few updated quotes from them acutally
Crystal's quotes aren't competitive at all, and i'm all but given up on them.
Open road EB said 2009 is $1000 above 2008, and they have no stock left. For either touring or GT. Open Road Morristown however, gave me a better quote on the 2009 model, with GT starting below 19000, this is with out any fees.
And Wayne starts at 19500 with out fees, so pretty much it's that 1700 spread between Touring and GT. Nothing really getting out of lines. but having seeing a quote dropping below 19000, i think i can get it done with my target price.
I don't have special connections, but my friends around me are saying they got their cars about 4k under msrp OTD with cash, so i should aim for 3k to 3.5k under msrp OTD. or maybe even more as we head in to the last 2 weeks of the year.
I'm prabably taking the 0% finance, since i think i have the credit for it. Just want to keep that extra cash for emergencies.
Let me know how it goes on saturday, i'm sure to be the first one to congratulate you
#3774 of 5092 Re: Buying a 2009 MAZDA3 HB Auto s Touring [ogurek]
Dec 19, 2008 (1:06 pm)
I bought 2008.5 Mazda3 HB S touring last month. I bought from Wayne Mazda and found them very straight forward to deal with. I got a pretty good internet quote from them, but was able to improve it after we met in person ...and after I left to shop at other dealers...2 days later they called and took my initial offer.
You may not feel like you are a good negotiator, but just remember some things.
1) in this economy any dealership needs you more than than you need them. There is always another dealership to visit, another offer to consider.
2) Before you get there decide what you believe is a fair price and what is the most you are willing to pay. Do not share this info, but stay true to your self. Also check the inventory tool at mazdausa.com before you visit so you know if they have many or one of what you want. Many gives you more power.
3) You can always walk away and you should if the dealer/salesperson creeps you out, applies gross pressure, makes you uncomfortable, seems unscrupulous. If you walk away, no one will chase you out the door or throw things at you. They most likely will call you and be very polite in a couple days later. State your offer again over the phone and just see where it goes. Negotiation is really just a discussion after all.
4) Make them an offer, it is a game of chicken, but what do you have to lose. They may say yes, they may say no, they may offer something in between. You are no worse off for trying.
#3775 of 5092 Re: Buying a 2009 MAZDA3 HB Auto s Touring [jatec]
Dec 19, 2008 (6:18 pm)
As you mentioned as "my friends around me are saying they got their cars about 4k under msrp OTD with cash, so i should aim for 3k to 3.5k under msrp OTD"
Actually, I don't think you can get this price even current economic is bad for all dealership.
#3776 of 5092 Re: Buying a 2009 MAZDA3 HB Auto s Touring [jatec]
Dec 19, 2008 (8:38 pm)
sorry that you didnt have luck with open road EB. a 1000$ markup on the 09 seems a bit high. so they dont have either 08 or 09 for your model? i guess it just depends what they have on the lot. sounds like open road M is the right dealer. when are you planning to visit them or buy your car?
MSRP for my model (without destination or other fees) is 19,475, but i dont see buying the car OTD for 15,475. since the quotes i got were in the 19,000 range OTD, i think i can shave another 1000 from that.
as you know we had really bad weather here today, but i think i can make it to OR east brunswick in the early afternoon. i dont want to test drive in the snow/slush or darkness.
#3777 of 5092 Re: Buying a 2009 MAZDA3 HB Auto s Touring [ellaa]
Dec 19, 2008 (8:47 pm)
thanks for the informative post.
i saw your previous post that you paid 18.5k for my configuration: 08 HB s Touring AT, no other options.
i hope i can get better than that since its the end of the year.
i agree with point 1, but point 2 is hard since 'fair price' is so hard to determine. i know the dealer needs to make some profit to stay in business, but i also dont want to pay more that i have to.
as for point 3, youre saying walk away if they dont accept your offer? i hate playing mind games but i know that is the game you have to play. like you said in point 4, make the offer and keep cool.... i hope it works
#3778 of 5092 Re: Buying a 2009 MAZDA3 HB Auto s Touring [ogurek]
Dec 19, 2008 (10:02 pm)
Fair price to me is what you believe is a fair price. Fair price may not be the lowest anyone ever paid, but rather a price that lets you feel as though you made a reasonable deal. You can second guess yourself and over analyse, but ultimately you need to decide on a number. In your post you want to do better than I did and think that should be possible since its year end. That seems like reasonable thinking, so how much lower is something you need to decide feels fair. They aren't going to give the car away, but you shouldn't pay more than you want to. Pick your number, remain with your number, walk if they don't like it. Try it at another dealer, walk if they don't like it. Wait for the calls, if none, re-assess whether your view of fair is unattainable, if it is, set a new fair price in your mind and repeat. Each dealership visit is a learning opportunity.
Good luck with your negotiation.
#3779 of 5092 is this good enough for Mazda 3 i touring value
Dec 22, 2008 (3:59 pm)
I got an quote for 2008 Mazda 3 i touring value (Auto), at a price of 14950 plue sales tax and title etc. Is it a good deal?
I like blue, but they only have a 2009 available in blue. I was told I need to pay 1000 more.I read on the board that $500 should be the difference between 2008 and 2009.
Can someone shed some light, should I negotiate more for 2009?
Dec 22, 2008 (8:00 pm)
what is the absolute most I can expect off of the msrp of an 08 and and 09 mazda 3
#3781 of 5092 Re: Buying a 2009 MAZDA3 HB Auto s Touring [cenbit]
Dec 23, 2008 (4:24 pm)
ok, tried my luck today
3k is pretty much out of the range with financing,
but 2k should be possible with cash payments for a 09.
won't hurt to go start off really low. Negotaited for about 2 hours, and was close to a deal with 0% financing. will see if they call me back.