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Mazda MAZDA3, Hatchback, Sedan
Jan 10, 2008 (7:01 am)
Document fees in Phoenix are considerably higher than what I'm seeing posted here from other places. They fell in the $299-$499(!) range for Mazda dealers here.
Our license fees are based on the value of the car. On a new '08 Mazda3, it comes out to around $350.
Every dealer here wants to tack on window tint - they put it on every new car unless you either specifically order it without it or you happen to find a car fresh of the truck that hasn't been tinted yet ($299 charge on the Mazda3 everywhere I checked).
Most want to add some sort of "Desert Protection Package" that includes some sort of paint protection. Cardinale Way Mazda quoted me $1097 for their DPP & $499 for doc fees on a pre-owned 2007 Mazda3. I have no idea what their DPP included - I couldn't get past the shock of them adding $1600 to the price right out of the gate (an internet advertised price that was higher than invoice on a new 2008, BTW).
I found that, of the 5 dealers I got bids from in the Phoenix area, they all started by adding about $900 in total adds to the price of a new '08 (+TT&L).
At the end of December, one of the dealers was offering 500 under invoice for anything in stock, the others were all willing to sell the 3 at invoice without argument.
#3329 of 5092 Re: deal? [zragnarok]
Jan 12, 2008 (3:14 pm)
The internet guys at Hiley Mazda in Hurst, TX offered $1100 off MSRP when I got my 3i Touring with ABS/SAB/SAC pkg a couple months ago. It ended up being about $20 below invoice, according to Edmunds. I can't remember the total OTD price, I'll try to look that up for you. I know I've posted it here previously, perhaps a quick search will find it again.
#3330 of 5092 Re: Yes.... [nsbio1]
Jan 13, 2008 (9:10 am)
I disagree that Out the Door prices is the best comparison between vehicles. That's because it will vary across taxing jurisdictions within a state. Additionally, it can vary depending upon how the store manages to figure in any trade-in (ie, either more allowed for trade-in, or less marked down from sales price).
The most meaningful basis for comparison would be for all costs less tax. Not less tax and title, just less tax, since 'title' fees are also subject to fluffing up.
Only in this way can we validly compare drive-off costs across states and counties, including those with no tax at all.
#3331 of 5092 Re: Yes.... [unkownuser]
Jan 13, 2008 (3:42 pm)
You are right - I meant OTD price in the same state. In practice, however, it is a little hard to get the price of the car excluding only the tax - true OTD price is the next best practical option.
On the other hand, trade-in should be a separate transaction, negotiated separately from the car purchase (OTD) price.
For example, I paid $16976 OTD for 2008 Mazda3i Touring 5sp ABS, cargo net, wheel locks (MSRP $17375) in NC. The OTD price includes 3%NC tax, title,registration, $444 dealer doc fee (high, but the overall price of the car was reasonable, so I did not negotiate).
From that price, they subtracted $100 for my 96 Protege with broken engine and 201 K Miles on it.
#3332 of 5092 Pricing on 2007 Mazda 3
Jan 17, 2008 (12:11 pm)
I have been quoted $18449 +TTL for a Mazda3 Touring 2007 (MSRP 21040).
Do you think I can get them to lower the price even further?
#3333 of 5092 Re: Pricing on 2007 Mazda 3 [breizhjedi]
Jan 17, 2008 (6:06 pm)
The price does not sound too bad. You can buy 2008 cars at or slightly below invoice, at least in NC.
Since your would-be is a 2007, they give you ~1500 off invoice price. What are their prices for similarly equipped 2008 models? I am trying to understand by how much they are discounting the car for it being 2007.
#3334 of 5092 Re: Pricing on 2007 Mazda 3 [nsbio1]
Jan 17, 2008 (9:41 pm)
I don't know how they price their 2008 models. On Edmunds the invoice price is 19610 before the 750 dollars dealer cash. 18860 is the invoice price after rebate. So I guess I am getting 300 dollars off the invoice price. There is no other fees added.
My guess is I can get the car for 18000 but I don't know if trying to get more would be pushing my luck...
#3335 of 5092 Re: Pricing on 2007 Mazda 3 [breizhjedi]
Jan 18, 2008 (8:08 am)
They must be desperate to get rid of last year's leftover, and so trying to get them to lower the price does not seem unreasonable.
As it is, you do not seem to be getting any discount for it being 2007. If I were you I would get a 2008 or get them to drop the price further for the 2007. If they say no, I guarantee that you will survive the rejection . Good luck.
#3336 of 5092 Got bottom price quote today
Jan 18, 2008 (9:42 pm)
2008 Mazda3 sport hatchback auto white. (+200 for the paint alone) Is 17,950 plus ca tt&l (add another 10%) Or 17,750 for any other color. Thats 650 under "S" plan. Since there are no rebates going on right now just the 1.9apr. I think thats bottom pricing. Anyone doing better?
#3337 of 5092 My 2008 mazda 3 i touring automatic
Jan 19, 2008 (1:48 pm)
I just bought this car for 16800. 500 under invoice. 2008 3i touring automatic with ABS package and 1.9% financing in RI. They seem to be willing to negotiate as first week of Jan. after holidays they were slow and advertising and promoting 1.9% finance. Car is great and runs very well.