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Replying to: papaiya (Dec 28, 2007 5:50 am) Anyways, how about Doc and title fees? My dealer stated that doc fees are not negotiable because of law (?). How do I get in touch with the Attorney General to find out if this is true? Doc Fee is $150 License Plate Fee is $160 Drive Off is $15 (Claims it is Cook County tax) Now, I checked IL's DMV site and they say that Registration for new vehicle is (License Plates included) is $78, while new Title is $65. Total is $143, so they are sneaking a few bucks in. Doc fee seems a bit high as well, as I read some people giving advice not to pay more than $50 for this. Basically the fee for the dealer to go and file the paperwork with the state. The "Drive Off" sounds suspicious, but when asked, he claims that it was a Cook County Tax. On actual paperwork, if I don't see it say "Cook County Tax" (if it actually says Drive Off" I'll ask him to re-label it or he can just foot the minor $15 himself to finish off the sale, or I walk away over the $15. This way, I have some recourse if I find out it was just a lie to get more money. Probably not legally (since it's 15 bucks, its not worth it), but at least I can put them on the news and have a reporter get some answer for "the curious public". |
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Replying to: bfcerny (Dec 28, 2007 8:26 pm)
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im looking for a base (Manual, no moonroof/bose, etc) Grand Touring Sedan 5spd in the north Texas area. Edmunds says invoice is about $19,300 with destination. Ive been as low as a $19,500 offer... after tax/title in texas it comes out to about $21k... i would really like to get below invoice before TTL if possible.... it kinda makes me sad that some of you guys are getting speed3's for 22k ish
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I'm looking for a Mazda 3 manual (i touring) for my brother in law. we ave test driven and were quotes "about 16,000" (I'll assume this is NOT an OTd price. we were just test driving a few cars (mazda was first on the stop of mazda, honda, toyota and hyundai, mazda was the winner) now I'm looking for the best deal, from what edmunds says, invoice is only a few hundred under MSRP (16,225 + 595 destination fee MSRP vs 15,552 plus 595 dest. fee for invoice) when we looked at the car the salesmen said ti was fully for sirius radio, "all you need to do is call and activate it" when I looked on their site, for that price, it STILL requires a 500 dollar optional module installed for it to work. (this is pretty snake oil salesmen ploy in my opinion by Mazda, don't call a car "Sirius compatible" if it STILL requires an add-on to play sirius. what sort of deal can I get? I know I'm going to hold that salesmen to his promise of "just call up sirius and activate it" so if it costs the dealer an extra 500, thats out of their pocket, not mine. also noticed ABS is NOT included (this sort of suprised me). the Manual is tough to find, so I'd be looking at this car with the sirius added, OTD price? what should I be looking at? we live in RI (7% tax) so a 15,800 sale price (invoice) nets an approx 1,100 sales tax. (16,900 total before any dealer fees) is this as LOW as I can get? I figure with the new year coming up I have some sort of leverage. am I wrong? THANKS!
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$24,068 is what I am paying OTD. 22,039 (base +160 for autodimming mirror with compass) 150 for Doc fee 105 to transfer plates 7.75% for tax 167 for Cook county tax 15 for another cook county tax (wtf???) I tried to negotiate on the doc fee, but they won't budge, even thought their own paper says this is an unofficial fee, and that the MAX they can charge is 150, so it is definately negotiable. I put down 500 so that they can build it from factory. I'm waiting for the jan 2008 production so I can get the 2008.5 Metro Gray Mica color, along with the MP3 CD player and black center console. How did I do? |
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Replying to: vlstellato (Dec 29, 2007 6:19 pm) |
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>>My dealer stated that doc fees are not negotiable because of law (?). The doc fee is extra padding- read, profit. Most states regulate maximum amounts that can be charged, and how high this is depends upon the auto dealers lobby in your state capital. The 'law' is involved only in that they cannot charge you more without itemizing and further explaining it. They can certainly charge you less, and if they are saying otherwise they are being less than truthful. No need to get involved in an argument- just have them lower their price by a corresponding amount. Because to say they are only charging $400 over invoice, and then see that they are tacking on a $300 "documentary fee," means that they are actually charging $700 over profit. If they come out and admit as much, I don't have a problem, and will either buy or not buy from them. But for them to come out and be less than truthful makes me wonder what else they are being dishonest about, and I tend to walk. |
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I was planning on making purchasing soon, and so far lowest OTD quote from dealer for the above configuration is $18,643. Just wondering if anyone else received a better OTD for something simliar to this |
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Replying to: jrct9454 (Apr 19, 2004 5:05 am) In addition, for comparing deals in different states, it is useful to know their state sales tax, which varies by a few %, which for Mazda3 means +/- ~$400-ish.
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Replying to: nsbio1 (Jan 05, 2008 12:55 pm) |
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