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Re: Good Price? [papaiya] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 28, 2007 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: papaiya (Dec 28, 2007 5:50 am)

Wow.. $1500 off?
 
Not bad for 268 hp..
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2008 Mazda3 i Touring Sunroof, 6 disc, Foglights Lease by bfcerny
Dec 28, 2007 (8:26 pm)
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Just an FYI...
I just got a 2008 Mazda3 I Touring with Moonroof/Foglights/6 disc etc...
39 month lease
10,500 annual miles
0 down sign and drive
$1,000 trade equity
$246 a month taxes included in payment.
  
Woodhouse Mazda Omaha Nebraska
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Re: Good Price? [papaiya] by tiff_c
Dec 28, 2007 (9:01 pm)
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Replying to: papaiya (Dec 28, 2007 5:50 am)

I've tried but they gave me their final quotes. here is what they said.
 
The lowest priced Mazda Speed3 we have lists for $23,105.00 (MSRP).........
       Invoice is $21,914.00 .......Your Cost = $22,214.00 ($300 over Invoice) + $199 Doc fee.
           Hope this helps.......let me know.

 
The other place said
 
The MSRP of this car is $22,975.
We can sell this car for just $22,112.26. Let me know when you're back and we'll do what we can for you.
 
Hi again, It doesn't pay for me to send a less-than-best price and then lower it later.
You have the price at which I will sell the car, make a small but fair profit, and be competitive with other dealers in my area.
Good luck on your search,

 
So no additional negotiating in my area. I guess they figure it's better to max their profits than sell a car. I'd have to take a bus to New Jersey to buy a car there and getting it back would be a nightmare the way my State requires you to register the car first, no temp plates.
I'll keep looking but My Subie is pretty much ready to be towed away. I dread driving it because anything that breaks on it now is really going to cost me.
Most dealers in my area don't really offer decent prices. They'll let you walk away and just don't care.
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Re: Good Price? [papaiya] by nad_masters
Dec 28, 2007 (10:52 pm)
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Replying to: papaiya (Dec 28, 2007 5:50 am)

21500 is a good price! That's 379 lower than my best. But I guess I will pony up because I don't want to go too far.
 
Anyways, how about Doc and title fees?
 
My dealer stated that doc fees are not negotiable because of law (?). How do I get in touch with the Attorney General to find out if this is true?
 
Doc Fee is $150
License Plate Fee is $160
Drive Off is $15 (Claims it is Cook County tax)
 
Now, I checked IL's DMV site and they say that Registration for new vehicle is (License Plates included) is $78, while new Title is $65. Total is $143, so they are sneaking a few bucks in.
 
Doc fee seems a bit high as well, as I read some people giving advice not to pay more than $50 for this. Basically the fee for the dealer to go and file the paperwork with the state.
 
The "Drive Off" sounds suspicious, but when asked, he claims that it was a Cook County Tax. On actual paperwork, if I don't see it say "Cook County Tax" (if it actually says Drive Off" I'll ask him to re-label it or he can just foot the minor $15 himself to finish off the sale, or I walk away over the $15.
 
This way, I have some recourse if I find out it was just a lie to get more money. Probably not legally (since it's 15 bucks, its not worth it), but at least I can put them on the news and have a reporter get some answer for "the curious public".
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Re: 2008 Mazda3 i Touring Sunroof, 6 disc, Foglights Lease [bfcerny] by vlstellato
Dec 29, 2007 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: bfcerny (Dec 28, 2007 8:26 pm)

Good deal til you exceed the annual miles and turn it in. All better hope you dont have any car damage as well.
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deal? by zragnarok
Dec 29, 2007 (6:27 pm)
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im looking for a base (Manual, no moonroof/bose, etc) Grand Touring Sedan 5spd in the north Texas area. Edmunds says invoice is about $19,300 with destination. Ive been as low as a $19,500 offer... after tax/title in texas it comes out to about $21k... i would really like to get below invoice before TTL if possible.... it kinda makes me sad that some of you guys are getting speed3's for 22k ish
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Mazda 3 manual! by drnick5
Dec 29, 2007 (9:55 pm)
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I'm looking for a Mazda 3 manual (i touring) for my brother in law. we ave test driven and were quotes "about 16,000" (I'll assume this is NOT an OTd price. we were just test driving a few cars (mazda was first on the stop of mazda, honda, toyota and hyundai, mazda was the winner)
 
now I'm looking for the best deal, from what edmunds says, invoice is only a few hundred under MSRP (16,225 + 595 destination fee MSRP vs 15,552 plus 595 dest. fee for invoice)
 
when we looked at the car the salesmen said ti was fully for sirius radio, "all you need to do is call and activate it" when I looked on their site, for that price, it STILL requires a 500 dollar optional module installed for it to work. (this is pretty snake oil salesmen ploy in my opinion by Mazda, don't call a car "Sirius compatible" if it STILL requires an add-on to play sirius.
 
what sort of deal can I get? I know I'm going to hold that salesmen to his promise of "just call up sirius and activate it" so if it costs the dealer an extra 500, thats out of their pocket, not mine.
 
also noticed ABS is NOT included (this sort of suprised me).
 
the Manual is tough to find, so I'd be looking at this car with the sirius added, OTD price? what should I be looking at? we live in RI (7% tax) so a 15,800 sale price (invoice) nets an approx 1,100 sales tax. (16,900 total before any dealer fees) is this as LOW as I can get? I figure with the new year coming up I have some sort of leverage. am I wrong?
 
THANKS!
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Signed... by nad_masters
Dec 29, 2007 (11:35 pm)
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$24,068 is what I am paying OTD.
 
22,039 (base +160 for autodimming mirror with compass)
150 for Doc fee
105 to transfer plates
7.75% for tax
167 for Cook county tax
15 for another cook county tax (wtf???)
 
I tried to negotiate on the doc fee, but they won't budge, even thought their own paper says this is an unofficial fee, and that the MAX they can charge is 150, so it is definately negotiable.
 
I put down 500 so that they can build it from factory. I'm waiting for the jan 2008 production so I can get the 2008.5 Metro Gray Mica color, along with the MP3 CD player and black center console.
 
How did I do?
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Re: 2008 Mazda3 i Touring Sunroof, 6 disc, Foglights Lease [vlstellato] by bfcerny
Dec 30, 2007 (7:56 pm)
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Replying to: vlstellato (Dec 29, 2007 6:19 pm)

Well I am glad to see that you know my driving habits. You say it is a good deal until I turn it in and go over my miles...well my last lease was 24 months and I had 19000 miles on the car. I obviously took my miles into consideration. Oh and also, thanks for telling me not to wreck it or I would have to pay for it...I would have never figured that out on my own. Sounds like someone has the same car for $340 a month and feels a bit of buyers remorse!!! lol
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doc fee by unkownuser
Dec 31, 2007 (3:48 am)
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>>My dealer stated that doc fees are not negotiable because of law (?).
 
The doc fee is extra padding- read, profit. Most states regulate maximum amounts that can be charged, and how high this is depends upon the auto dealers lobby in your state capital.
 
The 'law' is involved only in that they cannot charge you more without itemizing and further explaining it. They can certainly charge you less, and if they are saying otherwise they are being less than truthful.
 
No need to get involved in an argument- just have them lower their price by a corresponding amount. Because to say they are only charging $400 over invoice, and then see that they are tacking on a $300 "documentary fee," means that they are actually charging $700 over profit.
 
If they come out and admit as much, I don't have a problem, and will either buy or not buy from them. But for them to come out and be less than truthful makes me wonder what else they are being dishonest about, and I tend to walk.

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