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#3235 of 5103 $21300 for Mazda 3 GT...?
by vtbrian
Sep 19, 2007 (3:59 am)
Hello all,
Was recently quoted $21300 for a 2008 automatic 5-door mazda3s, grand touring, with the 2mc package (Moonroof, 6-CD and Bose Audio) option. This includes freight, but not taxes, tags, etc.
The lease price was $7300 with the one-pay (upfront) option. I am leaning towards the leasing option generally speaking anyway.
Would appreciate input on whether or not this is a good deal or if I can/should bargain for better. I did note that $21300 was only about $65 over invoice for that car and package.
Welcome your input.
Cheers,
brian
#3236 of 5103 Re: $21300 for Mazda 3 GT...? [vtbrian]
by pfje
Sep 19, 2007 (4:33 am)
What do you mean,..."the lease price was $7300 with one-pay (upfront) option."
What is the length of the lease? How many miles per year? Residuals? Money factor?
Thanks.
#3237 of 5103 Mazda3 s Touring hatchback
by dan_b_gilbert
Sep 19, 2007 (8:20 am)
This is a 2008 Mazda3 s Touring hatchback automatic. Final price is $19,217, fees are $252.75. Only includes the rear bumper guard option (invoiced at $40). Should I proceed? Thanks!
#3238 of 5103 Re: $21300 for Mazda 3 GT...? [pfje]
by vtbrian
Sep 19, 2007 (8:22 am)
here are the rest of the details:
- 24 month lease
- The Residual is 69% of MSRP $15865.17
- The money factor is .00152.
- 10,500 miles per year lease.
- lease changes by 2% residual for the 12k miles per year lease. $8057.
#3239 of 5103 Re: 4 door i Touring price [jfritsch]
by filod
Sep 23, 2007 (8:29 am)
jfritsch - first I thought the 1500 - 2000 off is msrp will be difficult, until I saw someone buying the Mazda 3 Sport for $17,165 (actually by markman post #3200, and thank you too markman).
For the 08, do you think I can offer $2,000 below msrp for a Mazda 3 S Touring Auto?
Curious, how can they go below invoice that much? I was quoted a Civic EX 08 (that I am going to buy when it comes anytime this week) way below the invoice, actually in the range you have been talking about. I get surprises everyday when I see some postings that I thought impossible.
When I saw your postings, I got curious and the Mazda 3 is now in my list. Thank you for the info. It is worth trying right? I will try a $2,000 off msrp. And if they agree, it is now between the 3ST and the civicEX.
#3240 of 5103 Re: 4 door i Touring price [filod]
by jfritsch
Sep 25, 2007 (2:23 am)
Invoice price has become more or less a nominal figure over the last 20 years. It can be a fair to miserable indicator of the true cost of a vehicle to a particular dealer irrespective of holdback, etc. (i.e. not all factory to dealer incentives are publicized)
Check out my message 316 in the chevy silverado forum. Do not waste much time walking into dealerships once you know what you want. Separate the jokers (85%) from those serious end of the month within a 100-300+ mile radius of your home via fax or email and work the top 3 or so against one another.
A decent target price on 95% of production vehicles is around 15-20% more than the wholesale price of a 1year old used one. (via kbb,edmunds.com or nada.com) closer to 15 percent at the end of the model year. This would put the target price of a 19000-ish mazda3 hatchback in the 16xxx range. If you find one dealer 100 miles away for lower so much the better. If you're financing for 3-5 years be sure to get that in order as you can lose a lot more here than on pure price. You may have to pay up for a month or two on the 08s depending on model.
Also check out message 9919 on the Honda Pilot forum.
Good luck
--jjf
jfritsch - first I thought the 1500 - 2000 off is msrp will be difficult, until I saw someone buying the Mazda 3 Sport for $17,165 (actually by markman post #3200, and thank you too markman).
For the 08, do you think I can offer $2,000 below msrp for a Mazda 3 S Touring Auto?
Curious, how can they go below invoice that much? I was quoted a Civic EX 08 (that I am going to buy when it comes anytime this week) way below the invoice, actually in the range you have been talking about. I get surprises everyday when I see some postings that I thought impossible.
When I saw your postings, I got curious and the Mazda 3 is now in my list. Thank you for the info. It is worth trying right? I will try a $2,000 off msrp. And if they agree, it is now between the 3ST and the civicEX.
#3241 of 5103 Re: 4 door i Touring price [filod]
by riddlermyth
Sep 27, 2007 (7:31 pm)
Ok, I admit, a little off-topic since this is the Mazda3 folder...
filod - you mentioned that you've been getting the CivicEX quoted "way below invoice"... could you please, please, please share how much? I'm *highly* considering the car (along with Mazda3). THANKS!!! I need all the help I can get, its my first new car purchase!!!
Sep 28, 2007 (6:20 am)
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#3243 of 5103 Re: 4 door i Touring price [riddlermyth]
by filod
Sep 28, 2007 (1:45 pm)
riddlemyth - sorry for the late reply. My wife decided on the Mazda3 s touring 5-door auto. Usually, once I buy the car, I do not read the forums for a while lol. I have to reconstruct the invoice amounts from Edmunds because I am at work and left my worksheet at home.
I was shopping for the 2008 Civic EX Auto (as well as Mazda3, Mitsubishi Lancer and the new Subaru Impreza) a week or 2 a go
2007 Civics offers both (all of these are for Automatic)
LX Auto Invoice (using Edmunds) $16,984 offer was $16,500
EX Auto Invoice (using Edmunds) $18,590 offer was $17,900
I asked him if he will give the EX price for the 2008, he said yes but there were none available (I really do not know if he was serious, but he was for the 2007 if I decided to go for it). I was really waiting for the 2008.
Because my wife was getting impatient (for the son actually), we went to see the Lancer (I was give $200 below invoice again using Edmunds) and went to Mazda and the rest is history -
2008 Mazda3 S Touring Auto 5door
Invoice per Edmunds 18,727 offer was $8,380, I wanted $17,900 (same as the Civic EX) and I got a lecture about Mazda3 blah blah (I told him I get the same lecture when I am with the Honda people he he). But he was generally nice, so my wife ( I do not know why she came in the conversation!) counter offer for $100 less and he said he cannot go any lower, so I walk away. I usually do not call them back or go back.
I was in Costco and he called me (it was a Sunday
4pm) and he said the 18,280 is bla bla... and my wife said he is a nice guy and willing to help me (with the promise of his manager) to get some accessories at employee pricing (no big deal really).
So...not the best, I still think you can get it lower but I can sleep with the prices I got.
I am in the San Francisco bay area, by the way. Good luck.
**All of the above plus state tax, dmv registration, $55 doc and $8.75 tire fee..no other fees.
#3244 of 5103 Re: 4 door i Touring price [filod]
by estrasa
Sep 28, 2007 (3:30 pm)
So you paid 18,380 for the s-touring?
I'm looking for an M3 i-touring automatic w/ side airbags, (limited extras), and have been quoted 16995.00 including dealer fees. I'm wondering if this is a good deal, or whether I should keep pressing on to find a better deal.
Need input...because my current car needs Jesus!