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#3216 of 4322 Re: Trading up from '05 - '07 [aviboy97] by chavis10 Aug 17, 2007 (8:38 am)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 16, 2007 8:41 am) He whipped out his little black book and the prices were roughly $2000 lower than what I found on Blue Book. This book did not include any provisions for all of the options on my car. He claimed the book is used at auctions and is a used car manager's bible. While this maybe true, I am always skeptical about anything being said at the neogiating table.   Example- they told me they'd give me the car at invoice yet when I examined the breakdown, the starting price is listed at invoice but the option package and accessories are at MSRP. I did not mention this as it assumed me somewhat. He worked so hard to gain my trust and I got him up $700 on my trade yet he still tries to assume I'm a foolish enough to let him sneak in an extra couple hundred dollars. The deceit is what really kills me about the entire car transaction game. Don't tell me I'm getting the car at invoice unless you are prepared to actually do so. When I go to sign my papers next week, I'm gonna have to show him that he's dealing with a savvy car buyer. If SOME of these employees displayed more honesty, I don't think they'd have the reputation that they do. Replies to this message: aviboy97 (Aug 18, 2007 6:18 am) chavis10 (Aug 20, 2007 7:15 am) aviboy97 (Aug 20, 2007 7:56 am)
#3217 of 4322 It Pays To Know by sandman46 Aug 17, 2007 (11:48 am)
It definitely pays to know all the prices for all parts of any transaction. I would have also assumed that if the salesman says he will sell the car for invoice, that it would also include any option package or accessory that was added on. Invoice is invoice and at no time was MSRP ever discussed. Good for you for noticing this slip on his part. But keep one thing in mind...it may really have been a slip on his part and not intentional. I'd like to think that he just made a mistake, but part of me also thinks he's trying to slip it past you. Just wish honesty would play a bigger role in the car buying scenario...from every side! Probably dreaming on that score, but I always hold out some hope...the eternal optimist.   The Sandman
#3218 of 4322 Re: Trading up from '05 - '07 [chavis10] by aviboy97 Aug 18, 2007 (6:18 am)
Replying to: chavis10 (Aug 17, 2007 8:38 am) Negotiating is key.   It is unfortunate that many bad apples of the past still ruin the bunch for the future.   Car buying should be fun, not a stress. All parties should work together to make this happen. Good luck! Replies to this message: chavis10 (Aug 20, 2007 7:15 am) aviboy97 (Aug 20, 2007 7:56 am)
#3219 of 4322 Re: Trading up from '05 - '07 [chavis10] by benzserviceguy Aug 18, 2007 (1:35 pm)
Replying to: chavis10 (Aug 16, 2007 5:27 am) What really sets pricing is the auctions ... MANHEIM is becoming the new "Galves/Black Book"   MANHEIM is an auction for dealers only. It basically helps to set pricing for trade valves.   Most stores (dealers) have access to Manheim. HAve your dealer show you what your car would sell for at auction.   NO CAR WILL BE IN MINT/EXCELLENT condition.   Manheim uses above average, average and rough   MOST cars fall into average.   GOOD LUCK
#3220 of 4322 How much should I expect to pay? by kats3 Aug 18, 2007 (1:52 pm)
Werner Mazda in Manchester NH is going to have a 2007 5 door/true red/Touring/auto/moonroof w/6 cd in next week. What can I expect to pay for this car? Is it worth it to just hold out for the 2008? They also said that the financing offers will differ between the 2 years...is this true? Replies to this message: ecofun (Aug 19, 2007 7:24 am) aviboy97 (Aug 20, 2007 6:28 am)
#3221 of 4322 Re: How much should I expect to pay? [kats3] by ecofun Aug 19, 2007 (7:24 am)
Replying to: kats3 (Aug 18, 2007 1:52 pm) There are plenty of automatics around at Boston and NH dealers. You should be able to find this car at several dealers in the area. It's always risky to talk to only one dealer. I would think that you could get this for invoice if not better. Figure that you can knock $1000 off a '08. The car is essentially the same as the '07 model. If you keep the car for 5 years or more, there won't be a wide spread on resale. If you plan on only 2-3 years, difference in resale could be significant. You do the math from here. Good luck.   One thing I noticed shopping for a loaded GT at Werner, they all came with a front air dam. Waste of money for me so I wouldn't deal with them. You may be OK with the Touring model though. I ended up buying from Sentry West in Shrewsbury, MA. Very easy deal and I got exact options I was looking for. Remember you can still service the car at any dealership. Replies to this message: aviboy97 (Aug 20, 2007 6:28 am)
#3222 of 4322 Re: How much should I expect to pay? [ecofun] by aviboy97 Aug 20, 2007 (6:28 am)
Replying to: ecofun (Aug 19, 2007 7:24 am) There are plenty of automatics around at Boston and NH dealers. You should be able to find this car at several dealers in the area   Yes and no. 5-door production numbers were reduced this year due to the body molds being used on the Mazdaspeed3's. Inventory on the 5-doors are slim to none, unless you are open to color.   kats3- The financing deals are different from 07 to 08.
#3223 of 4322 Re: Trading up from '05 - '07 [aviboy97] by chavis10 Aug 20, 2007 (7:15 am)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 18, 2007 6:18 am) I would never call this process fun. If you as a buyer do not give your undivided attention to what's been presented, you'll be made a fool of. The amount of effort it takes to insure a fair transaction is utterly fatiguing. Dealers do this for a living and the odds are stacked completely against a buyer who doesn't spend his/her work week sharpening their proverbial sword of car negotiating. The tactics are purely despicable and I will no apologies for making such a strong statement. That is not to say, however that all dealer employees are snivelling vultures. My current salesperson is very pleasant however the managers who rarely show themselves appear to be crooks Replies to this message: aviboy97 (Aug 20, 2007 7:56 am)
#3224 of 4322 Re: Trading up from '05 - '07 [chavis10] by aviboy97 Aug 20, 2007 (7:56 am)
Replying to: chavis10 (Aug 20, 2007 7:15 am) I cannot say I disagree with you. However, there are some that do not work like that.   In my store, it does not pay to work like a crook. With the Internet today, even a little bit of homework goes a long way. There really isn't anything to hide anymore. Plus, if a customer thinks you screwed them, they won't come back. I don't want that.
#3225 of 4322 07 Mazda 3S Hatchback purchased yesterday by sportflyer Aug 22, 2007 (7:43 am)
Just purchased this one yesterday:   2007 Mazda 3S Touring Hatchback Automatic with Moonroof/CD changer $18900 incl destination charges Excl taxes and registration fees.   Also took advantage of Mazda offer for 36 mth 0% Financing . I tried to get more off by offering to pay cash but did not succeed.   Good price?

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