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Mazda3 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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saw some by eldaino
Aug 09, 2007 (7:11 am)
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killer deals on a few mazdas at the local dealer...
they had a 3 s TOURING hatch going for 18500 ADVERTISED price.
 
i thought that was pretty sweet. the interest was 5.8 for sixty months.
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Trading up from '05 - '07 by chavis10
Aug 13, 2007 (8:42 pm)
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My car has a boat load of problems so I'm gonna try again for an '07 GT. More features and hopefully the issues I've had have been worked out.
 
Galaxy Grey GT MSRP- $23,150 and he's only offering $22,206 (invoice is $21,545). Again, it's an '07 so don't you think they should be more aggressive with lowering the price? They've also low balled my trade in as Edmunds had $12,725 and they offered $11,500. Sounds like I have more negotiating to do, eh???
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is this a good deal? by han7
Aug 13, 2007 (9:26 pm)
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a dealer has offered a 2008 Mazda 3 'S' Sport Sedan with a 5 speed manual and Moonroof/6CD package for $17,562($18,900 msrp) plus $218 t/t. should i jump on this? would asking to addd leather seating, and offering $17,000 t/t out the door be asking too much? also, i'm not too familiar with when the year-end date is for the model, would anyone know when it is? i might wait until then to jump on a 2007 instead.
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How about this deal? by waterfall
Aug 14, 2007 (10:15 am)
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2007 Silver Mazda3 s Touring with Moonroof.
Here is the detail.
MSRP: $20760
Invoice: $19492
OTD price: $20351
The numbers on paper are $18573 (invoice), $55 (document), $1537 (tax) and $186 (other official fees).
 
CA, 8.25% tax. How about this deal?
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Re: Trading up from '05 - '07 [chavis10] by aviboy97
Aug 15, 2007 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: chavis10 (Aug 13, 2007 8:42 pm)

Edmunds had $12,725 and they offered $11,500. Sounds like I have more negotiating to do, eh???
 
Always negotiate. Keep in mind, Edmunds is a publisher, they are not in the "car business". Their trade values are not an accurate measurement of true vehicle value.
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Re: Trading up from '05 - '07 [aviboy97] by chavis10
Aug 16, 2007 (5:27 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 15, 2007 8:33 am)

Thanks for the reply. I checked out Kelly Blue Book and they listed the value at $13,545. I'll set $13,000 as my lowest limit and go from there since I dew have a few dings and dents. I live in the city and park on the street so...
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Re: Trading up from '05 - '07 [chavis10] by aviboy97
Aug 16, 2007 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: chavis10 (Aug 16, 2007 5:27 am)

Sometimes thinking what KBB or Edmunds says is law may actually hurt you, and cause you to pass on a good deal. I know in my store, I have yet to sell a pre-owned vehicle for what KBB or Edmunds says it's worth. I always list the price lower then them, and I usually sell for even lower then that.
 
My advise it to have the dealer show you the book that they use to asses vehicle values, and have then explain how they came to their number. Here in the North East, we use Galves. Down south and in the mid west, I think they use whats called the "black book"
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Book of the black arts [aviboy97] by autonomous
Aug 16, 2007 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 16, 2007 8:41 am)

have the dealer show you the book that they use to asses vehicle values, and have then explain how they came to their number. Here in the North East, we use Galves. Down south and in the mid west, I think they use whats called the "black book"
 
An important thing to remember about the "black book" is that it is a publication created for dealers and not by an independent third party. In other words, this presents the information from the dealers point of view. As a consumer I would look at several sources (including KBB) to balance the picture.
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Re: Book of the black arts [autonomous] by aviboy97
Aug 16, 2007 (3:27 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Aug 16, 2007 1:02 pm)

As a consumer I would look at several sources (including KBB) to balance the picture.
 
KBB does not buy or sell vehicles. How do they know what they are worth? They give you values for free, and make money through advertisement. If they were really reputable, why would they not charge for their info? Because it is worthless, and they know it.
 
Having KBB give a value for a vehicle is like me stating how much I think Sony should sell a TV for. I can do research on reliability and features until I am blue in the face, but, it gives me no merit to say how much one should sell for new or pre-owned.
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Re: Book of the black arts [autonomous] by aviboy97
Aug 16, 2007 (3:37 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Aug 16, 2007 1:02 pm)

An important thing to remember about the "black book" is that it is a publication created for dealers and not by an independent third party
 
That is incorrect. The Black Book is an independent company that established wholesale values for vehicles that pass through an auction. Galves is the same. Dealers use these books because most of the time, vehicles are traded in that are no longer a dealer retail piece. So, these vehicles need to go to an auction. A dealer needs to know what that vehicle will bring at an auction, so, these books are resourced as to what these vehicles true worth are. Hence what a real trade value is.
 
Now, if a dealer is taking in a retail piece, usually they will step up on the trade offer to make the deal because they can sell it for a profit. That does happen quite a lot.
 
Now, as a customer, I think it is wise to negotiate until you cannot go any further. That is what I suggested to that other person who posted. But, many times, people walk away from great deals because they are ignorant, stupid, or both.

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