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Re: 07 3 HB GT auto! [jong81] by bigfur
Apr 20, 2007 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: jong81 (Apr 20, 2007 5:27 am)

Only option i got was the Bose/sunroof option. Had everything else i wanted already. Added Sirus radio later, as an add on unit. Reason i went with the add on is that i can take it from car to car.
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Navigation? by JBaumgart
Apr 20, 2007 (5:21 pm)
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Anyone get the NAV option? Based on what I was told by my dealer and from what I can tell checking all local dealers' inventory, navigation seems to be very rare on Mazda3's.
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Re: Navigation? [JBaumgart] by bigfur
Apr 21, 2007 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: JBaumgart (Apr 20, 2007 5:21 pm)

Its rare because so few people want it being such an expensive option. I believe its in the neighborhood of 1700 dollars (im sure someone will correct me if im wrong). You can go to best buy or circuit city radio shake etc etc and pick up a hand held navigation system for less then 500. Plus you can take the hand held into other vehicals with you. Seems to make more sense to me that way.
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Re: Navigation? [JBaumgart] by dwynne
Apr 21, 2007 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: JBaumgart (Apr 20, 2007 5:21 pm)

Like user bigfur said, it is very expensive as a factory option and most folks will balk at the price - so dealers will not order any cars with it, or not very many. They tend to get stuck with them.
 
I like having OEM navigation, no risk of theft, integrated into the car, good sat reception without external antenna, etc. The downside is the initial cost and updates from Navteq and few and far between and cost $199 or so when they do come out.
 
You can get a portable Garmin for as low as $200 on up to several hundred. Garmin releases map updates about every year and the cost is normally $75. The largest, most expensive Garmin has an MSRP of just $1300 but sells for less.
 
I love the integrated OEM NAV systems, but it has become almost impossible to rationalize the cost with the after-market GPS systems being so cheap now.
 
Dennis
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Re: Navigation? [dwynne] by JBaumgart
Apr 21, 2007 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Apr 21, 2007 10:45 am)

I've had a Garmin for about 5 years now, and was thinking about updating to a new one. I agree with your comments about factory NAV's in terms of the pros and cons, and I'm not sure if I would have paid an extra $1500 - $1700 to get it on a Mazda3, but I was surprised that it basically wasn't even available unless you did a special order. I do like the newer ones with integrated Bluetooth and traffic alerts.
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Re: Navigation? [JBaumgart] by stallionre
Apr 21, 2007 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: JBaumgart (Apr 21, 2007 11:37 am)

I have a Garmin for 5 years now and would not pay $1,550 for the Installed Nav. I rather carry my Garmin from car to car. I won't pay the money for the OEM. Also, most insurance companies will not cover the Nav unit. I rather not pay for high insurance on it just in case if it get's stolen (the car).
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Re: 07 3 HB GT auto! [steevo] by calvinc
Apr 21, 2007 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: steevo (Apr 18, 2007 7:20 am)

The horrible experience may be typical of many dealerships. Here's part one of the story. They advertised $1250 below invoice, but when I got in the store, they wanted to add freight, which from what I read online, it's usually included already. So that's a bit misleading, and that $1250 below invoice price turned into about $650 below invoice. Hey, still a good price right? But then they had some $1200 "dealer installed option," loaded with junk like door edge guards and fender guards. I don't know what else it had, but for over $1k, it's definitely not worth it. I went in there on a Wednesday, just wanted to talk about the $1250 below invoice pricing, and that's when they "cleared" it all up for me. I told them I wouldn't pay for the dealer options, but could meet them on the freight. I also told them I didn't want to buy that night, b/c my time was limited, and I simply wanted to talk pricing a bit and look at their inventory. I told them I would come back saturday, if satisfied with the price, and asked to just let me leave politely. I mean I could have gotten up at any moment, but I didn't want to be rude. They kept telling me to hang on a minute, talked to their manager, and came back with a different price. I kept my story straight, saying how I really needed to go, and will be back saturday if the pricing is right. They just did this over and over again. I guess I don't know how to deal with these guys, and should have gotten up immediately, but that just seems plain rude. Eventually, I got out of there w/o buying the car.
 
Part 2, after about 2-3 weeks of waiting, I was finally ready to buy. Things came up that prevented me from buying then, when I first went to the dealerships. So I got some pricing again, through online quotes, and most were around invoice, best being $250 below invoice. And these invoice prices all included freight, which I think they should. Then just that week, my mom got a $500 off coupon for a local dealership, "taken off your best deal," it said. So with that in mind, that dealership was quoting me $200 off, plus this coupon makes it $700. I went ahead and called back the original place I had gone to, the one discussed in part one. I told them my pricing, and said "this dealership is quoting me $22586 (OTD), which is $200 below invoice, but I have a $500 coupon for them, making it $22086 (OTD). I told him if he wanted my business, he'd have to beat them. I said something like $21900 (OTD) would be good. He seemed to stop for a minute, thinking he wouldn't be able to do it, but told me he'd talk to his manager, and then get back to me. I didn't hear from him the rest of the evening, which was Thursday btw. Friday morning, I get an email from the dealer saying "I can sell you the silver GT HB that I have in stock for $21153 out the door. It includes some extra accessories like Sirius radio and cargo net." I was shocked, he crushed the competition, beating the best offer by close to $1000, and beating what I asked for by almost $800. Then I paused and thought, "what's wrong with the car, is it missing automatic and bose, is it a demo or has lots of mileage, oh wait, is it even an 07?" These thoughts crossed my mind and I wanted to confirm with with the dealer. I asked something along the lines of, "I'd like to confirm that the car you are talking about is an 07 3 GT hatch automatic, with bose audio/moonroof. Can you also tell me how many miles are on the car?" Shortly after sending, I was telling my coworker about what was going on. He said, "what if the dealer meant $22153, that'd make more sense." Then it hit me, he might have mistyped and was off by $1000, which really would add up and be a much more reasonable deal. I was scared now, I wanted that quoted price. I immediately emailed the dealer back and said, "I'll be there tonight at around 7:30 to pick up the car." I got a reply from him and he said that'd work.
 
So no reply from him confirming the options, or the mileage, or even the year, but that's fine, killer price, worth a trip at least, and he said he'd meet up. I'll find out exactly what it is when I get there. I got there that evening and he sat us down. Before I started, I told him I wanted to take the car out for a quick spin. It was parked right in front, plastic covering the seats, sticker saying it's 07 with the options I was looking for. Last check for me was the mileage...great, 7 miles on it. Not bad in my book. I drove it around for a mile, small loop around the dealer, all seemed fine. I was finally ready to buy. Keep in mind this is my first car, so it was very exciting. I start filling out the mazda credit app, and he went and wrote up the selling contract on the carbon copy paper they have. I glanced up and saw him writing, and noticed he wrote $21153 on the top line of the sheet, and added tax, tags, and processing to it. What was going on, didn't he write "out the door" on my email. He was about $1500 off from what I was planning on paying. He turned the paper to me and asked me to look it over, I said, "wait a minute, you told me out the door price was that top price, that would be written at the bottom." He laughed, and said "you'd kidding right, out the door doesn't included all that, you were expecting the pay that price all said and done, no way." I said, "yes, forget this, thanks for your time," and got up. I was pissed. I was halfway in my car when the manager ran after me. He asked what was wrong, and I immediately said to him, "before I get started, what does out the door mean to you?" He asked as expected, and said "it includes everything, tax, tags, you name it." I immediately agreed, and explained that the dealer wanted to add tax, tags, proc, to what was quoted, and I showed in the email. He read it, and said that I was right, and said, "hang on a minute, let me see what I can do." I sat for about 3 minutes, and decided that was enough. I walked in and told him that I was ready to pay the price as quoted, and am done negotiating. He said that the price was too good, and he couldn't do it, best he could do was $21900 or so. I told him "thanks for your time, but I'll see you later". And let, done with them. I was pissed all night.
 
It's now saturday morning. I was ready to go over to the dealership with the $500 coupon, ready to pay $700 below invoice. I tried reaching the dealer but he wasn't in. He wasn't going to be in for a few hours. Fine, I'll wait. In the meant time, still pissed off about last night, I thought I should complain to Mazda headquarters, or something like that. I wanted to get in touch with the general manager of that local dealership first, and tell him the problem and vent. Called up the dealership from the night before, got voicemail for the general manager. Hit "0" for the operator again to ask for another manager. Guy gets on the phone and politely asks how he can help. I asked him
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Re: I am getting my car tomorrow all fixed up.... [stallionre] by scrybe74
Apr 23, 2007 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: stallionre (Apr 18, 2007 9:12 am)

Stallionre,
 
I was at Galpin Mazda in Van Nuys this weekend. I have mixed feelings about my visit. They were nice enough but wouldn't commit to their quote. I got a quote for 15,473 for a mazda 3 i touring from another dealer. They claimed that they would match it but sounded week. I told them that I would be ready to buy the first week of may and took the sales woman's card. Who is your person? Let me know. Thanks!
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Re: Mazda 3: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [KarenS] by sakusmith
Apr 26, 2007 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: KarenS (Dec 30, 2003 7:28 am)

There is a Mazda 3 s touring, blue mica, with moonroof/6 c.d., compass mirror, rear wing spoiler for 21,310 at a dealership by me. Do you think i would be able to negotiate down to say 18 or 19,000??
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Re: Mazda 3: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [sakusmith] by scrybe74
Apr 26, 2007 (3:14 pm)
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Replying to: sakusmith (Apr 26, 2007 2:44 pm)

I'm just finishing negotiations right now on a mazda3 s sport with the sac option. I eventually got them to give it to me for $100 under invoice. How I did it was to email 5 dealerships in the surrounding area telling them what I want. 3 responded and 2 gave me low quotes. I visited one in person but told them that I wanted to wait 1-2 weeks before buying so I LEFT no matter what they said. I stayed in contact and got a really low quote from the 2nd dealer on the car I wanted (i touring). Later I decided that I wanted the i touring with sac/ab package. The 2nd dealer had one in stock but the 1st dealer didn't so I was set to go to the 2nd dealer (about $400 over invoice). The 1st dealer called me back a day later and said that they would give me the s touring for $100 under invoice if I wanted it but they needed to know in advance because they had to swap with another dealer to get it. I told them that I'd think about it. It was more than I wanted to spend but it was such a good deal. The 2nd dealer emailed me earlier today that the i touring with sac/ab was sold, etc....(not sure if they even had it to be honest). The 1st dealer called me again and asked if I still wanted the car because another customer was interested. I told them to go ahead and sell it! The salesperson responded that they wouldn't sell it if I would just promise to buy it. NO deposit required. Just my word. I finally agreed as long as the terms of the deal didn't change.
 
Moral of the story...do your research, have options and be willing to walk away. Specifically I would price it out here on Edmunds and make them an offer either at invoice or a couple of hundred dollars below and let them know that you are ready to buy if they an agree to terms.

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