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Re: s-plan [iwantacar1] by dwynne
Sep 19, 2006 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: iwantacar1 (Sep 19, 2006 10:11 am)

Am I ripped off?
 
If they keep forgetting to may you pay the $595 destination charge, then no
 
Charging you $250 doc and $170 as another fee sounds like too much, but as I said some local dealers here get about that much in doc fees anyway.
 
The deal is good if compared to what you could negotiate on your own you get a better price. Around here 3's are selling really fast and dealers are not discounting them much at all. The dealer that sold me an RX-8 a year ago for $500 under invoice will only take off a few hundred on a 3 sedan for my daughter now. Supply and demand - they can sell about as many as they can get so they don't deal.
 
If a local dealer offered me your deal ($420 over invoice including dealer fees) for a car that match my daughter's specs - I think we would take it.
 
A Ford retiree friend is trying to see about getting us an s-plan PIN. I think HERE - even with some fees - it will save my daughter some money - right now.
 
If you want to buy a speed6, for example, you don't need s-plan just a checkbook. Those and the RX-8s are priced way under s-plan prices now since they can't sell them.
 
Dennis
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Re: s-plan [iwantacar1] by dwynne
Sep 19, 2006 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: iwantacar1 (Sep 19, 2006 10:11 am)

Something else to remember - a difference of $100 or $200 on a deal is really "nothing". Each $100 is 1/2 percent on a $20k deal and a couple of bucks per month on a car note.
 
Now I don't like paying too much nor do I like getting ripped off, but sometimes you have to not try to not get EVERY penny out of a deal. I still try, then I remember to relax and enjoy the new car - even if it cost me $100 more than the perfect price
 
Dennis
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Re: s-plan [dwynne] by iwantacar1
Sep 19, 2006 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Sep 19, 2006 10:59 am)

I agree. I do believe that dealers need to make a profit. As long as it is a fair deal, I won't bother to get to the bottom line. but since I have read so many stories of dealer's tricks or scams, I was little bit worried especially being a female. They don't have a car that I want in their lot and they need to locate a car for me. They called me couple of days ago, saying they found one car but with moonroof+cd changer option. I told them no since I don't need any extra, so they are still looking. My worry is: what if they can't find a car that matches my description and they ask me to wait for a month? What about my deposit?
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Re: s-plan [iwantacar1] by dwynne
Sep 19, 2006 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: iwantacar1 (Sep 19, 2006 11:35 am)

You can use the car find function at mazdausa.com to find the car for yourself - if one is around. With the s-plan the price is the same from any dealer, so you could go to the dealer that has the car and buy it direct.
 
Part of the extra fee may be for finding and transporting the found car to you. It does cost them money (employee time and gas) to move the cars - and it does have someone other than you driving your new car first
 
I think the non-refundable deposit went the way of the do-do bird. If they can't find you a car then you get the money back. Now if they find your one, pay to move it to town for you, then you back out they MAY want you to pay them back for time and trouble out of the deposit.
 
If you have not signed a delivery document your PIN should still work anywhere - use the locator and find the car and go get it
 
Dennis
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Re: s-plan [dwynne] by iwantacar1
Sep 20, 2006 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Sep 19, 2006 12:42 pm)

I haven't signed a delivery document and they did not even ask for my S-pin. They did write a note on my contract that the buyer will provide s-pin. Indeed I did search mazda website inventory and found two cars matching my description, but they are about 100 miles away ( not in the state where I am though). Should I tell my dealer about this? I am sure if they search hard enough, they should have the same info as I found. I am not sure if they have their internal inventory that is not publically available but searchable among Mazda dealers. The other thing is that I did not put a note on the contract as how many days at most they should spend to get the car I want. What should I do? Just wait?
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Re: s-plan [iwantacar1] by dwynne
Sep 20, 2006 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: iwantacar1 (Sep 20, 2006 8:50 am)

The dealer should have access to MORE car information than the mazdausa site provides to us. Some of the cars shown may already be sold and some may also be on the way and not yet on the lot, some may have deposits on them or be special orders.
 
What *I* would do is find the car you want. Go to that dealer's web page (if they have one) and see if they show the inventory and see if THEY show they have it for sale. Then follow up with a phone call to them to confirm they have it for sale.
 
Then I would ask each one that has the car how much they charge in s-plan fees. Some dealers charge $175 some may charge $300, I heard of one that charges a LOT more. The s-plan price would be the same everywhere, but the Mazda dealer does get to tack some extra fees on them.
 
If the folks that HAVE the car charge reasonable fees, *I* would get my check back from the first dealer and just go get the car.
 
You could call the dealer you first worked with and point them to the other car. The MAY want to charge you for having to go get it and they will usuall send someone to DRIVE your new car back to their dealership.
 
I have not heard of a non-refundible deposit in a long time and clearly they are not working hard for your business if they could not find the cars you did (assuming you verify they are on the ground and ready for sale).
 
I am still working to get an s-plan PIN, someone told me Ford employees were allowed to generate as many PINs per year as they wanted for MAZDA sales - but that may no longer be true. I think for Ford purchases it is limited to 2 per year. In any case, the dealers offered me $500 over invoice + dealer fee if I can't get a PIN. One dealer gets about $250 the other about $384 in fees.
 
Dennis
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Re: s-plan [dwynne] by iwantacar1
Sep 20, 2006 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Sep 20, 2006 9:33 am)

Thanks for the advise! As far as how many PINS is concerned, here is what I found from Ford AXZ plan FAQs:
 
Each active or retired Ford Motor Company employee receives four (4) PINs each calendar year. The PINs they distribute to their eligible members, as well as those they use themselves all count against the four they are allocated. Note: Members are not aware of the number of PINs remaining for their Sponsor and thus you may be denied a PIN request because the Sponsor is out of PINs for the current year.
 
 
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Re: s-plan [iwantacar1] by aviboy97
Sep 20, 2006 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: iwantacar1 (Sep 20, 2006 9:41 am)

I have been following what you have had concerns with, maybe I can help you, I am a Mazda dealer.
 
To start, S-Plan is invoice. Destination/regional assessment is included.
 
Regional assessment is that "$200" charge you saw, that Mazda charges in different regions of the country. They are all printed on the factory invoice. They differ from region to region. Mazda does not disclose them on their web site. For example, I am located in the New York region.
 
What is not included is dealer fee's (processing fee's) tax, registration etc.
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Re: s-plan [aviboy97] by dwynne
Sep 20, 2006 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 20, 2006 10:44 am)

So the assesment fee would likely be the same for any area dealer she talked to? The only difference would be how much extra (if any) each dealer charges for doc/setup/processing?
 
Thanks,
Dennis
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Re: s-plan [aviboy97] by iwantacar1
Sep 20, 2006 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 20, 2006 10:44 am)

Thanks a lot! That makes me feel better In deed I did find the car from the other dealer's website (which is over 100 miles away from where I am). As a dealer like you, will he be willing to get the car so far away for a potential buyer?

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