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Replying to: mkuchyt (Sep 17, 2006 11:45 am) With no other optional equipment or accessories, your price would be $21,117 less fees, reg, tax etc. Mazda's discount program is called S-Plan. |
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Does anyone know if s-plan price includes the destination fee? I have contacted some dealers, they showed me the invoice of Mazda3 2007 S TG Hatch, but it incudes some assessment fee around 200, is that normal? I am in Ohio, Thanks!
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Replying to: iwantacar1 (Sep 19, 2006 7:34 am) The invoice should have the dealer's invoice price (less destination) and the s-plan price (less destination) and then have the destination cost as a separate item that adds to the other prices. I don't know what the "Assessment fee" is, this is not mentioned anywhere in any Mazda stuff I have seen (but I am not an expert at this). They should show you the actual invoice and you take the s-plan price plus destination fee and that should be your price - unless you have any dealer installed options. I think under S-Plan the dealer CAN charge you "reasonable fee" for paperwork, etc. They may be charging you the $200 for a "salesperson's commission". Again, I think as long as they are reasonable they can charge a little more than the s-plan price + $595 destination. Under x-plan (at a Ford dealership) I think they have to charge you just x+dest and nothing else. Looks like s on the 5 door S GT manual would be $18,523 and $19,409 for an auto. You can check on the internet lots of places for invoice prices - but $18,523 is what I have for the manual 3 s GT hatch. So if they charge you $200 more, that is still a hot deal $200 over invoice including dealer fees. Heck, most of my local dealers get a MINIMUM of $299 for a doc fee or prep fee and it goes up from there. Dennis
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Replying to: dwynne (Sep 19, 2006 9:36 am) The reason that I was asking about the dest. fee is that on my paper work, they just listed the base price of the car (2007 Mazda S Touring Auto, hatch), 18209 (=18039+170 assessment fee), and the total unpaid balance does not include destination fee and there is nowhere showing destination fee.They also charged me $250 documentary fee, saying that is standard in Ohio( I have asked several dealers, they all charge that including vw dealers, so maybe it is true?) They did not show me the invoice because they have to locate the car that I want first. But I have put down a deposit for it. Am I ripped off?
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Replying to: iwantacar1 (Sep 19, 2006 10:11 am) If they keep forgetting to may you pay the $595 destination charge, then no  Charging you $250 doc and $170 as another fee sounds like too much, but as I said some local dealers here get about that much in doc fees anyway. The deal is good if compared to what you could negotiate on your own you get a better price. Around here 3's are selling really fast and dealers are not discounting them much at all. The dealer that sold me an RX-8 a year ago for $500 under invoice will only take off a few hundred on a 3 sedan for my daughter now. Supply and demand - they can sell about as many as they can get so they don't deal. If a local dealer offered me your deal ($420 over invoice including dealer fees) for a car that match my daughter's specs - I think we would take it. A Ford retiree friend is trying to see about getting us an s-plan PIN. I think HERE - even with some fees - it will save my daughter some money - right now. If you want to buy a speed6, for example, you don't need s-plan just a checkbook. Those and the RX-8s are priced way under s-plan prices now since they can't sell them. Dennis |
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Replying to: iwantacar1 (Sep 19, 2006 10:11 am) Now I don't like paying too much nor do I like getting ripped off, but sometimes you have to not try to not get EVERY penny out of a deal. I still try, then I remember to relax and enjoy the new car - even if it cost me $100 more than the perfect price  Dennis
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Replying to: dwynne (Sep 19, 2006 10:59 am)
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Replying to: iwantacar1 (Sep 19, 2006 11:35 am) Part of the extra fee may be for finding and transporting the found car to you. It does cost them money (employee time and gas) to move the cars - and it does have someone other than you driving your new car first  I think the non-refundable deposit went the way of the do-do bird. If they can't find you a car then you get the money back. Now if they find your one, pay to move it to town for you, then you back out they MAY want you to pay them back for time and trouble out of the deposit. If you have not signed a delivery document your PIN should still work anywhere - use the locator and find the car and go get it Dennis
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Replying to: dwynne (Sep 19, 2006 12:42 pm)
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Replying to: iwantacar1 (Sep 20, 2006 8:50 am) What *I* would do is find the car you want. Go to that dealer's web page (if they have one) and see if they show the inventory and see if THEY show they have it for sale. Then follow up with a phone call to them to confirm they have it for sale. Then I would ask each one that has the car how much they charge in s-plan fees. Some dealers charge $175 some may charge $300, I heard of one that charges a LOT more. The s-plan price would be the same everywhere, but the Mazda dealer does get to tack some extra fees on them. If the folks that HAVE the car charge reasonable fees, *I* would get my check back from the first dealer and just go get the car. You could call the dealer you first worked with and point them to the other car. The MAY want to charge you for having to go get it and they will usuall send someone to DRIVE your new car back to their dealership. I have not heard of a non-refundible deposit in a long time and clearly they are not working hard for your business if they could not find the cars you did (assuming you verify they are on the ground and ready for sale). I am still working to get an s-plan PIN, someone told me Ford employees were allowed to generate as many PINs per year as they wanted for MAZDA sales - but that may no longer be true. I think for Ford purchases it is limited to 2 per year. In any case, the dealers offered me $500 over invoice + dealer fee if I can't get a PIN. One dealer gets about $250 the other about $384 in fees. Dennis
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