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by nyjazz
Jun 04, 2006 (7:13 pm)
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I'd like to share my buying experience at Anguili Mazda in Staten Island, NY. It was a nightmare! Beware of Anguili!
 I requested a quote through edmunds.com on Mazda3 i Touring with three options: a/t transmission, 6CD and sunroof package and wheel locks. They called me and quoted $16.700 and no fees on top except for DMV and tax. That is below edmunds's TMV so I decided to buy immediately. It was end of the month, they might have reached their quotas or something, I thought . At the dealership, they offered me to apply for financing through them, which I agreed (just to see if I could get better APR that my Capital One Blank check). They told me that in order to show to their bank that I really will put down $2000, I need to leave a deposit in the amount of $2000. I wrote them my personal check for the amount requested and signed the buyer’s order. So, here is their trick: Instead of writing my price $16700 on the order they wrote: “ customer requested his monthly payments to be in 300’s. Deposit refundable if cannot meet terms”. The salesman assured me that it is customary to put it this way and they would tell me my APR tomorrow and if I change my mind, they will refund the money. It took them 5 days to get to their bank and tell me their APR. The APR was good enough and again at the dealership I was ready to pick up my car. And guess what? Now the price was $17.700 and doc fee was $145. I said I was not buying at their new price and asked for my deposit back. What now? They told me that deposit will NEVER be refunded if I refuse to take the car at their new price because THEY DID MEET THE TERMS – THEY GAVE ME PAYMENTS IN 300’s!! Sales manager told me plainly that we should stick to the “letter” of our written agreement – 300’s, no matter if it is $305 or $399. And he was so generous that he brought my payments to ONLY $360 a month. An easy way to rob your neighbor for $2000! I placed a stop payment (a $30 fee for that) on my check and was lucky my bank managed to get the money back to my account.
What if it was too late? I could have lost my $2000. It could took months before I would be able to recover the money in small claims court….
 
I was so eager to get Mazda3 – that would be my first brand-new car ever. Now I am unsure if I even want Mazda3 anymore…. Buyers beware! Never give too big deposits, never sign their papers with no car price on it.
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Re: [nyjazz] by backy
Jun 04, 2006 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: nyjazz (Jun 04, 2006 7:13 pm)

Good lesson on reading the contracts carefully and maybe also doing deposits with a credit card (easy to dispute the charge).
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Re: Buying Experience[nyjazz] by kmaurer
Jun 04, 2006 (8:37 pm)
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Replying to: nyjazz (Jun 04, 2006 7:13 pm)

I hope you don't take the Mazda3 off your shopping list because of this dealer. Is there another dealer in your area (or one you are willing to drive to) that you can work with instead? Every car line has dealerships like this - especially Toyota and Honda (in my area, anyway).
 
I purchased my Mazda6 from a dealer 50 miles from my home because of a horrible experience I had at the local dealer. To me, the car was worth the extra drive. The whole process (once arriving at the dealership) took only about 1 hour on a busy Saturday.
 
Hopefully you can get over the anger - time seems to help melt it away.
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nyjazz by z71bill
Jun 05, 2006 (7:30 am)
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Look on the bright side - it only cost you $30 for a lesson you will never forget.
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Re: Buying Experience[nyjazz] [kmaurer] by atsang1
Jun 05, 2006 (11:17 pm)
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Replying to: kmaurer (Jun 04, 2006 8:37 pm)

the experience with one mazda dealer could affect the the feel to the car or the car company. I was looking for the 3, but the internet manager didn't honor the quoted price, I gave up on the 3, kind of. Then I looked for other cars, I ended up with an Accord Lx auto, only paid a few hundred more than the 3.
3 is a good car, but it's not a perfect car, it has a/c issue, mileage is so so (3s auto), and not that quiet. I can definately feel the a/c difference between the Accord and 3.
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Re: 4-door sGT price [wavrider] by panaman
Jun 05, 2006 (11:23 pm)
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Replying to: wavrider (Mar 21, 2006 5:11 pm)

i am looking at the same car as yours right now, would you mind telling me what you paid out the door. I also live in CA
 
Many thanks,
Steve
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Re: Buying Experience[nyjazz] [kmaurer] [atsang1] by nyjazz
Jun 06, 2006 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: atsang1 (Jun 05, 2006 11:17 pm)

Suprisingly, that experience did affect my feel of Mazda.... I realized that I just don't want it anymore. It is a strange feeling... I placed the order for Scion 2006 TC yesterday.
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Is this a decent price? by stinkyreefer
Jun 06, 2006 (11:37 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 18, 2006 7:38 pm)

I negotiated a price for a Mazda3 i Touring model $15700. No options other than what the touring package comes with. Invoice is $15,535. Is just under two hundred over invoice a good price?
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Is this a decent price? by stinkyreefer by z71bill
Jun 07, 2006 (6:40 am)
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$200 over invoice could be a good price - or you could be paying way too much - its hard to tell.
 
Are you trading in a car? What does KBB or Edmunds say it should be worth? (retail - private party - trade in value) How much is the dealer giving you? Less than trade in value - BAD - between trade in and private party - OK - over private party - GOOD.
 
Are you financing the car with the dealership? What interest rate are they offering you? How does this compare to what you bank or local credit union has for a rate? Obviously if they beat the rate from your other finance source thats GOOD - if they are higher _BAD -
 
A $15,000 loan at 5% for 48 months = $345 payment - same loan at 6.5% is $355 - thats only $10 a month - or $480 more.
 
Is this the "real" price? Or will the dealer add on a bunch of made up fees - like document or advertising?
 
Are they telling you you must also buy an extended warranty? credit life insurance or any other items?
 
Answer all of these and they we can tell if you have a fair deal.
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2006 2.3 Hatchback Manual (NYC) by automoto
Jun 07, 2006 (10:45 am)
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2006 hatchback manual, no options, NYC (basic model)
 
Price paid (OTD) = Invoice + $100 + Title/Reg/Insp fees + $45 Dealer fee + NY Tax(8.375%).
 
Cash Deal, I think I can paid invoice if I finance through Mazda. 06 Mazda3 is cleaning up for 07 model. From what I read Edmund forums, 07 mazda3 will be too hot to sell at invoice. But who knows, Mazda3 is 2+ years old and the compact market is getting very intense now since all Japanese companies and VW are offering many new compact this year as well as performance 200~300 Horsepower compact cars.....

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