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#2485 of 3644 Re: Regional Fee? [cephme] by lmp180psu Apr 16, 2006 (12:48 pm)
Replying to: cephme (Apr 16, 2006 12:37 pm) S-Plan is a pricing program available to companies that are a partner of Ford Motor Company (Ford's version is X-Plan). I think my company buys Taurus' for our sales department, so all the employees get to take advantage of S/X-Plan. S-Plan pretty much gives you invoice price (like what you see on Edmunds, not dealer's invoice) without any haggling. You just need to get your companies S-Plan number, and then you go to the Ford Partner website to get your specific PIN to use at the dealer. So I got my car for about $200 over invoice after the regional fee. Check with your Human Resources department to see if your company qualifies for X/S Plan. Replies to this message: cephme (Apr 16, 2006 5:02 pm)
#2486 of 3644 Re: Regional Fee? [lmp180psu] by cephme Apr 16, 2006 (5:02 pm)
Replying to: lmp180psu (Apr 16, 2006 12:48 pm) I work for a major Boston health care/hospital system. We have our own police force (we are actually our own jusrisdiction within our area of the city, not a rent-a-cop thing) that drives crown vics and shuttle service that uses E-series buses and vans. Technically, we are also part of Harvard University (as a teaching hospital of the medical school). I bet through either the hospital or the University I should qualify. I'll check with HR tomorrow. Thanks.
#2487 of 3644 Re: Regional Fee? [cephme] by audia8q Apr 17, 2006 (7:37 am)
Replying to: cephme (Apr 16, 2006 7:41 am) legit fee. Most websites mention the ad fee (including edmunds) but don't list the exact amount due to regional differences.
#2488 of 3644 Just say NO to "legit" fees! by z71bill Apr 17, 2006 (8:22 am)
Go look at what Edmunds says about these fees - THEY ARE NEGOTIABLE!   If you start to think - Well it is FAIR for them to charge me $300 (whatever) for the regional jack up the price and cheat the customer after the deal has been made fee - because its on the invoice - or because the dealership had to pay it - or its only $300 so its not worth messing with - then you are making a mistake - don't just roll over for this stuff.   The dealership pays for a lot of things that are not directly passed on to you - like the sale commission - all of these fees have been added just to DRIVE UP THE PRICE and profit of the deal.   Sure if you are getting a price at invoice (before fees)and they TELL YOU in advance they will add in a $300 fee - it still may be a pretty good deal - you need to look at the TOTAL amount you will pay - But if you negotiate a price - & both agree to it and THEN at closing they try and add in a fee - I would always 100% of the time tell them NO. It is not the price that we agreed on. They should have included this in during the negotiation.   If they pull the - everyone pays this - its like sales tax crap I would walk out - if they insist on having the fee - tell them to reduce the sales price by the fee amount - so the TOTAL price you pay IS THE PRICE YOU AGREED ON! What can be more fair than that - sticking to the agreed on price.   Do you think that if you tell them at closing - I paid a $300 fee when I bought the car I am trading in (see look at my invoice!) so I must pass this on to you - so you must give me an extra $300 for my trade in (over what we agreed on) - anyone think the dealership would just say - OK sure thing - since you had to pay it - its fair!   Now someone try and explain to me whay it is OK for a dealership to change the agreed on terms of a sale. Replies to this message: cephme (Apr 17, 2006 5:58 pm) audia8q (Apr 18, 2006 9:11 am) dride (Apr 18, 2006 12:24 pm)
#2489 of 3644 Re: Just say NO to "legit" fees! [z71bill] by cephme Apr 17, 2006 (5:58 pm)
Replying to: z71bill (Apr 17, 2006 8:22 am) Just to be clear, the dealer I am talking about told me about the fee ine email before I even went in to the dealership stating "you might notice about a 1.3% difference in the price vs what KBB and Edmunds quote you. This is due to the regional fee." The difference between what KBB tells me and what he is quoting ins $220. Not huge. It is offset by the fact that he told me to use edmunds to guestimate the value of my trade in (a 1997 protege ES). Edmunds rates it at about $200 more than KBB. He also told me exactly how much to expect to pay for documentation. The other two dealers are not willing to give me a price until I "come in for an appointment". He might be tacking stuff on that the other dealers will not, but he will at least talk to me about price which the other do not seem to want to until they have me cornered.
#2490 of 3644 cephme by z71bill Apr 18, 2006 (7:32 am)
Great - as long as they are up front I would not complain - at least you know what the real price is - and can make an informed decision - its the add on after the deal is done that I think is just plain wrong. Replies to this message: lmp180psu (Apr 18, 2006 7:58 am)
#2491 of 3644 Re: cephme [z71bill] by lmp180psu Apr 18, 2006 (7:58 am)
Replying to: z71bill (Apr 18, 2006 7:32 am) I agree with you about the fees if they are tacked on after the price is agreed on. My saleswoman was forthcoming with the Mazda invoice printout, and appreciated the honesty upfront about the regional fee. If I buy another Mazda after my hatch tomorrow, then I will certainly go back to her first
#2492 of 3644 Re: Just say NO to "legit" fees! [z71bill] by audia8q Apr 18, 2006 (9:11 am)
Replying to: z71bill (Apr 17, 2006 8:22 am) I think your confusing a dealer fee like a doc or conveyance fee and a manufacturer charge like an ad fee or destination charge.
#2493 of 3644 Re: Just say NO to "legit" fees! [z71bill] by dride Apr 18, 2006 (12:24 pm)
Replying to: z71bill (Apr 17, 2006 8:22 am) Do you think that if you tell them at closing - I paid a $300 fee when I bought the car I am trading in (see look at my invoice!) so I must pass this on to you - so you must give me an extra $300 for my trade in (over what we agreed on) - anyone think the dealership would just say - OK sure thing - since you had to pay it - its fair!   Amen. That post just made my day!
#2494 of 3644 Mazda 3i touring w/ min options by pete283 Apr 19, 2006 (10:03 am)
I got an offer for a TiGray 3i touring with ABS, wheel locks, door edge guards, and an autodimming mirror for $16359 which he said was invoice(initial offer was $16859 but I said I would only buy at invoice). not quite invoice from what ive checkd on here and kbb but pretty close.   is this a good deal and what kind of fees should i expect to get tacked on to this? is destination charge part of invoice? I heard this dealer (MapleShade Mazda) was pretty good but this is my first car buying experience and im a little aprehensive. thanks for the help Replies to this message: backy (Apr 19, 2006 1:33 pm)

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