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Mazda3 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: Really Bad Experince [kmbone] by modock
Feb 14, 2006 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: kmbone (Feb 14, 2006 12:06 pm)

I bought my 3 at Sill-terhar in Broomfield. I went through the internet sales manager and had a real price before I ever left my house. It was not the greatest price but a decent one. I think 2% over invoice plus $300 or so. I just sent a request for quote through Edmunds and that is the price I was given. E-mail me if you want the guys name.
 
Corey
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Re: Really Bad Experince [jdb4] by mrblonde49
Feb 14, 2006 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: jdb4 (Feb 12, 2006 9:58 pm)

Ummmm.....if you love the car, go to another dealer
 
Many people here got their cars for close to invoice or below invoice
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Re: Really Bad Experience [modock] by kmbone
Feb 14, 2006 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: modock (Feb 14, 2006 12:18 pm)

I did get a fairly good price through the Internet sales manager at McDonald Automotive in Littleton. In fact, it was the best price out of all the quotes I got, and it's a no-haggle dealership, which I would have expected to come out near the high end of the price spectrum. Plus, that sales manager said that price would be good at any time in the future (unless Mazda changed the price structure of their vehicles). I had every intention of buying the car there because of the price and because he was very helpful and straightforward with me--except now it's a matter of the car not being available.
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Re: Really Bad Experience [kmbone] by ostiaantic
Feb 14, 2006 (3:53 pm)
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Replying to: kmbone (Feb 14, 2006 1:57 pm)

I finally got two internet quotes on two cars close to what I want.
 One NY dealer has the car on the lot. They quote $700.00 over Edmunds invoice. Add tax and tags only. This is pretty similar to the Edmunds TMV price.
   The second one, in CT this time, can "get it"again for, again, 700.00 over Edmunds invoice and close to Edmunds TMV.
    One common issue is that all the dealers who have sent quotes appear to have an invoice price higher by $200.00-$250.00 over Edmunds invoice. All point to an advertising fee. This makes the price about $500.00 over invoice.
     Both of these prices jive with one I received back in December from another CT dealer. It looks like Mazda in NY/CT are all about the same price, just about the TMV.
     Has anyone here done better than this in the NY/CT area? Maybe I jut need to bite the bullet at this point.
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You've been looking since December? [ostiaantic] by mikezoomzoom
Feb 15, 2006 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: ostiaantic (Feb 14, 2006 3:53 pm)

BUY, BUY, BUY... and get on with your ZOOM ZOOM!!! Mazda 3 models sell pretty much as fast as they arrive, sometimes before they're even off the boat.
 
You are literally haggling over a few dollars on a minimally marked-up car with a high content value.
 
The profit margin (Invoice to MSRP) on a 2006 Mazda 3i Touring Sedan with an automatic, here in Dallas/Fort worth after advertising assessment, is $929.
 
If I sold those at invoice all day long... I would only gain my hold-back of $320. Then I pay my Sales Consultant a minimum commission of $100, Accounting takes $70 for detail, fuel, and inspection, and our store "pac" takes $200 for operating costs. Suddenly... I lost $50 "REAL MONEY" and have to explain, to my GM, why a car selling as well as the Mazda 3 lost money.
 
Every deal has the potential to be extremely different from the previous... trade, payoff, credit, down, term, lender, even dealership actions and processes. Anything around invoice is a great deal yet the car has a minimal mark-up to offer high value from the get-go.
 
ZOOM ZOOM
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Re: You've been looking since December? [mikezoomzoom] by kmbone
Feb 15, 2006 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: mikezoomzoom (Feb 15, 2006 7:18 am)

Yes, but our job as buyers and consumers is to get the best price we can for the car, not to maximize the dealer's profit. While it's nice to understand a dealer's position, it's not our responsibility to make sure that you make a fair amount of money on the sale, and it's not our fault if you lose money. When I buy a twelve-pack of Coke, I'm check the newspaper ads and see which supermarket in town has the best price for it. So I'm certainly going to try to save money on something much, much more expensive like a car. Because saving an extra hundred dollars will help my bottom line.
 
And I've been looking since December also. Unfortunately, things like work, the holidays and an already-booked vacation got in the way. Now it's a matter of having the patience of a saint and getting on a waiting list for a 3s.
 
Every day I wake up and wish I had just bought the car before leaving on vacation. Even though I didn't quite have the financing worked out then and was too frazzled to get into the right mindset.
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Re: Really Bad Experience [ostiaantic] by mrblonde49
Feb 15, 2006 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: ostiaantic (Feb 14, 2006 3:53 pm)

Edmunds doesn't include advertising fees because they can be different based on region. I'm pretty sure they explain that somewhere in their pricing section
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Good price? by jdb4
Feb 15, 2006 (6:31 pm)
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in Maryland, $18k, including taxes, title and freight, for 3I-Touring with ABS/SAB and Moonroof/6disc Changer. Good price?
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New purchase in West Springfield, MA by mpmartin0
Feb 15, 2006 (8:59 pm)
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Just purchased a Mazda3i-Touring from Balise Mazda in MA. Manual, ABS/Side airbags, Moonroof/6CD, Compass/Autodim mirror with Homelink, Cargo net, Rear wing spoiler, Wheel locks, Black Mica for $17,605. Minus a $700 trade and the grand total came to $18,014 which includes tax/title/license. What a great deal for a car so loaded with features and such good handling. Can't wait to pick it up on Saturday!
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Re: You've been looking since December? [mikezoomzoom] by ostiaantic
Feb 17, 2006 (6:39 pm)
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Replying to: mikezoomzoom (Feb 15, 2006 7:18 am)

I have been checking the Mazda inventory twice weekly on at least 10 dealers in the CT/NY area since early December 05. The inventory has gone steadily down on each and every one, with no new additions at all. For the past month,I can practically tell you what each dealer has without checking the inventory. I've memorized it. I drive past one dealer in NY every day and another in CT once a week. They have never gotten another 5 door since December.
    One dealer tells me it will tale 16-18 weeks to order a the 3s I want, while getting one from another dealer "it may have 100-300 miles on the odometer."
   They may be selling fast, but no new inventory at all in three months and 18 week wait for a car is not good news.
   If the two dealers I pass frequently had gotten any new 3s 5 doors, I would have seen them. I don't believe they get deliveries every 2 weeks, at least not in my area.
    Considering I live in a heavily populated area of the country, I expected it would have been much easier to get the car I want, especially so early in the model year.
     As far as the prices. $700.00 over invoice appears to be the best anyone will do. I guess if the car I want was close by and had 15 miles on the odometer,I'd just go for it at this point.

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