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jmfont or anyone who knows? by bunk1968
May 11, 2005 (11:37 am)
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I saw the link to the S-plan for 2005 models, but it did not show prices for the hatchback. Should I assume that the hatchback would have the same pricing as the 4 door Mazda 3s??
Also, I went to a dealership in Troy MI and they told me that they had a $500 dollar rebate on the 3 until the end of the month?? Is this true??
What is the best price I should be able to get for a black or gray hatchback with ABS package and Moonroof package AND WITH THE S-PLAN???
The place that said they were offering the rebate came to a figure of 17600 with the S-plan and the rebate, is that good??
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Relentless3 by bunk1968
May 11, 2005 (4:48 pm)
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Please help!
I saw your response to one of my posts about a used Mazda 3 price!
Did you get your 16700 price on a hatch and did you use the S-plan?
I want a Mazda 3 with MANUAL TRANS, MOONROOF PKG., AND ABS PKG.
I can get the S-plan if I would benefit from it.
How much should I expect to pay and HOW DO YOU SHOP AROUND WITH LOCATIONS NATION WIDE? Did you have any problems having a dealer near you agree to the price of a dealership out of state?? Oh, also, the last dealership I went to said they are having a $500 rebate until the end of the month, but this is not listed on Edmunds?? Is this a lie??
Thank you!!
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Market Adustment, are they crazy by cadrien
May 11, 2005 (7:40 pm)
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Finally went to drive one today, very nice car for the $$. Looked at the sticker and then saw the dealer had added on a market adjustment of, get this, nearly 5k! Are they kidding? Does anyone ever actually pay this? I overheard a sales guy telling a girl there that the adjustment is there so they can give he rmore for her trade. I almost interrupted them to tell her to not even think of paying the adjusted price. Is this standard for these cars? I want a M3 5door with moonroof/abs/xenon and maybe leather , 5 speed. I will not pay more then MSRP and hopefully only a bit over invoice. This has me thinking twice about buying a Mazda.
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Re: Market Adustment, are they crazy [cadrien] by mazda6s
May 11, 2005 (11:39 pm)
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Replying to: cadrien (May 11, 2005 7:40 pm)

cadrien - The market adjustment is just there for people who are stupid enough to pay it, and there are plenty of them. And yes, they will play games with the trade-in price. What you should do is figure out what you want to offer them and make the offer. If they won't accept your offer then go to another dealer. Of course this involves a little work because you have to figure out what the local market is and what they CAN accept if they want to sell a car that day. And, you'll have to figure out what your trade is worth if you have them. Don't be afraid to walk out. You can always go back and offer more later if you want to. Or, you can let them work the numbers in which case I promise you'll get ripped off. There's no such thing as a "standard" market adjustment. Dealers set their own prices.
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Re: Market Adustment, are they crazy [cadrien] by mdaffron
May 12, 2005 (4:28 am)
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Replying to: cadrien (May 11, 2005 7:40 pm)

Shop a different dealer. There was no "market adjustment" on any car at the dealer I bought from.
 
I did see a $3,000 "market adjustment" on a Nissan Sentra SR on a local Nissan dealer's lot a couple of years ago though, so I know what you're talking about. It happens. Just vote with your feet.
 
Just remember that the Mazda3 is selling so well, that dealer probably knows someone will buy the car with that adjustment in place. It's sad, but hey -- welcome to capitalism.
 
Meade
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Market adjustment *snort* by charlotte7
May 12, 2005 (6:08 am)
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I've only seen market adjustments on Toyota Prii in my area (central Texas). I'd never pay a market adjustment on anything. You can get a Mazda3 without giving in to that crap.
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Market Adustment, are they crazy by z71bill
May 12, 2005 (6:20 am)
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$5K market adjustment on a MAZDA3 - I bet you were being taped for some reality show - maybe Ashton Kutcher was going to jump out and say you have been punked!
 
The tired old line about charging more for the new car so they can give you more for your trade is a complete lie. Dishonest dealerships will try to use this if you are upside down on your trade (owe more on the loan that the car is worth)
 
But it is nothing more than a way to get you to pay more.
 
Do the math: (I used MSRP as an example)
 
MSRP $25,000
Honest trade in value $5,000
Your current loan $6,000
 
If you pay MSRP of $25,000 - 5,000 trade + roll over the $6,000 loan - your new loan is $26,000. You paid $20,000 after trade in plus rolled over the $6,000 loan.
 
If they mark up the MSRP by $2,000 so they can "help you and give you more for your trade" because you are upside down. Then your new loan will be $27,000 - $6,000 trade + roll your old loan over $6,000 = $27,000. You paid $21,000 after trade in plus rolled over the $6,000 loan.
 
They make you think that they are being a little bit shaddy - helping you by tricking the bank into loaning you more than MSRP & also helping you out by "paying off your old loan even though you owe more than your car is worth".
 
The lie will sound something like - the bank will not loan $26,000 on a car that we sell for $25,000 - but if we adjust the price up so we can give you more for your trade - then WE can pay off the loan on your trade FOR YOU - and get the bank to finance the new car. Everyone wins.
 
Please - does anyone think that the same bank that will NOT loan you $26,000 will loan you $27,000 for the same car?
 
If anyone really thinks that the dealership pays your old loan off for you - then you are past the point of me helping you understand the car business - and you should get professional help.
 
One other common way dealers will play this game is instead of just adding a market adjustment - they will install worthless options - like $1,200 paint protection packages - some will even tell you this is so they can get the banks to loan you more - again they are just trying to help you get into a new car. Same lie - same result - you pay more.
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Hear hear, Bill. by mdaffron
May 12, 2005 (8:10 am)
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Well said.
 
Meade
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Re: Market Adustment, are they crazy [z71bill] by mazda6s
May 12, 2005 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: z71bill (May 12, 2005 6:20 am)

Nice work. You da man!
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Re: How do youlike the navigation [unlimited] by admanb
May 12, 2005 (6:16 pm)
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Replying to: unlimited (May 10, 2005 11:10 pm)

unlimited,
 
just to clarify, since i wanted automatic and the only dealer with an automatic and nav wanted msrp, i opted not to get that, nor the manual with the nav and brown leather (i wanted black). so i can't really comment. besides, can't say i've even experienced a lexus nav system...!
 
--adam

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