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Re: I don't know, maybe it's just me... [shipo] by jeffyscott
Mar 05, 2009 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 05, 2009 12:55 pm)

Right I understand that, but that is not what Mazda lists as the criterion, they simply say "cold = sch 2"
 
Just like we know that salt on the road has no imact on oil in the engine, yet Mazda says "salt = Sch 2".
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Re: I don't know, maybe it's just me... [jeffyscott] by shipo
Mar 05, 2009 (4:14 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Mar 05, 2009 2:04 pm)

They can list anything they want; there's no way they can refuse any engine related work (and make it stick) unless they can at the same time prove that it was an oil exhaustion related failure. In my case, all I need to do is to walk in with my UOA results showing that the oil was good to go for my driving habits and all of their arguments go out the window.
 
FWIW, I don't do UOAs for that reason; however, it's nice to know that they can be used in case of a disagreement.
 
Best regards,
Shipo
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Shipo: FYI... by roadburner
Mar 05, 2009 (8:27 pm)
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Note that the 7/10/08 sample included three track days.
 
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Re: I don't know, maybe it's just me... [shipo] by jeffyscott
Mar 06, 2009 (5:25 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 05, 2009 4:14 pm)

In my case (with my mazda6), were there no warranty issue, I'd like to change oil (conventional) every 6 months or 5000 miles...which is (or was) Ford's normal schedule. To avoid any potential issues I have gone with Mazda's 4 month interval...which ends up being 3-4K miles for me.
 
I figured $25-30 for one extra oil change per year was not a big deal. Plus I got my first 3 changes for free and I am now expecting to get another free one in exchange for my kid test driving a mazda3. Also every oil change gets me a free car wash, as long as it is not too cold at the time.
 
BTW, when my car was new I had emailed Mazda about this issue, I sent them these questions:
Can you please clarify some of the terms and conditions that are used to describe conditions under which maintenace schedule 2 applies?
What is considered short-distance driving?
Why does driving in areas where salt or other corrosive materials are being used mean that a shorter oil change interval is required?
What specific temperature range qualifies as "cold"?
 
Their answer was:
Since our office is not technically trained, I can only stand behind what our owners manual states.
 
Short distance driving is many city stops. Cold weather, daily temperatures under 40 degrees has an influence on types of lubricants used.
 
If you have any further questions regarding maintinance or terms and conditions, I have listed a Mazda dealership which there service department can help assist you.
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More fun with Mazda OCI by jeffyscott
Mar 06, 2009 (5:28 am)
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Another email exchange I had went like this:
 
Me:
Can you explain why there is such a big difference in maintenance schedules for the very same 2.3L engine depending on whether it is in the Mazda 6 or the Ford Fusion? According to Ford, my driving would be "normal" this would mean changing oil every 7500 miles. Even the Ford severe schedule is 6 months/5000 miles. Meanwhile with the Mazda6, I am told to follow schedule 2 which means a 4 month interval for oil changes.
 
Mazda:
I apologize for any confusion you have experienced. I cannot advise you on a Ford Schedule Maintenance Guide. However, I can advise that Mazda North American Operations strongly recommends following the guidelines presented to you in the Mazda6 owner's manual. These intervals were presented this way based on testing performed by Mazda engineers.
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5w-20 vs 5w-30 by halser
Mar 06, 2009 (11:58 am)
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I have a 2006 Mazda 3s. It has 42k with the 2.3 and a manual transmission.
I use only Mobil 1 synthetic oil. You are quoting the manual for the service intervals. My manual only states using 5w-20. Is there a reason you are using
 5w-30? Will the oil have any trouble with the tight tolerances?
 
Thanks, Halser
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Re: 5w-20 vs 5w-30 [halser] by shipo
Mar 06, 2009 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: halser (Mar 06, 2009 11:58 am)

Keep in mind that RoadBurner is running a MazdaSpeed3, and the Owner's Manual for that car recommends 5W-30.
 
In my case I'm running 0W-30 in my 2009 Mazda3 i Touring (with the 2.0 liter engine) 5-Speed, and like your 2.3, the physical engine block, crank, pistons, heads and valve assemblies are identical to the ones sold in European Mazdas, and those engines call for 5W-30. For the U.S. market, the reason 5W-20 is recommended has nothing what-so-ever to do with tight tolerances and everything to do with getting the best fuel economy numbers.
 
Best regards,
Shipo
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Re: 5w-20 vs 5w-30 [shipo] by roadburner
Mar 06, 2009 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Mar 06, 2009 12:17 pm)

The Aussie MPS(Mazdaspeed) say that their owners manuals list 5W-40 and higher viscosities as approved oils. Isn't CAFE wonderful?
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Electronic power steering unit replacement by drpr
Mar 10, 2009 (3:31 pm)
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2004 with 53K miles
Power steering unit decided to function intermittently last year. Now it is completely dead. The dealer wants an arm and a leg and my first born child to replace it. Has anyone else been through the diagnosis and replacement of this unit? Any tips? Do you have to reset the computer after replacement? THANKS!
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Re: Electronic power steering unit replacement [drpr] by autonomous
Mar 11, 2009 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: drpr (Mar 10, 2009 3:31 pm)

Power steering unit decided to function intermittently last year. Now it is completely dead. The dealer wants an arm and a leg and my first born child to replace it.
 
Have you checked the power steering fluid? Have you ever had it replaced? Do you see any leaks under the engine? Did the dealer quote a new unit or a replacement unit?
 
I had to have mine replaced last year after I ran over a speed bump the wrong way and created a crack in the unit which slowly dripped out all the fluid. I had a replacement unit installed upon the dealer's recommendation at roughly 1/3 the cost of a new unit. Good luck!

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