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#2675 of 4991 Sqeaky Brakes by dride & oldmazownr
by z71bill
Nov 21, 2005 (8:02 am)
Mazda has a TSB for this defect - 04-001/05 2004-2005 MAZDA3 - FRONT BRAKE SQUEAK WHEN COLD - you can read all the TSB info at http://web2.iadfw.net/theman/protegefaq/tsb/tsbmenu.html
Print out a copy of the TSB and take it with you - in my experience it really helps to have it in black and white.
oldmazownr - My theory is the AC problem shows up more in the sedan - even though the HB and sedan have the same AC system - the AC is so marginal (weak) that the extra heat load - from the sun - coming through the rear glass on the sedan is enough to over load the system. IMO it is a combination of several "issues" - the main problem is that the evaperator is too small - this causes the compressor to cycle on and off - so you get cold - cool - warm - cold - cool - warm air about every 15-20 seconds - sure the compressor is designed to cycle on and off - but most cars don't start this quick cycle until the inside of the car is almost cooled off - I can get in my car after it has been in the sun on a 95 degree day - and the AC starts to cycle right away.
I have seen a few posts that claim the evaperator in the 2006 Mazda3 is larger (than the 2004 & 2005) I just dropped my Mazda3 off at the dealership - I plan to stop by the parts department when I pick the car up and ask them to look up the part number for a 2004 & 2006 evaperator - see if they are the same part number-
If you have taken a test drive and don't think the AC is good enough to satisfy you then DO NOT BUY THIS CAR - test drive a few more and see if you can find one with a good AC - because according to some people their cars AC works good. One thing I can say for sure - as in I am 100% positive that this is a FACT - if you get a Mazda3 with a weak AC system Mazda will not fix it - if it is blowing cool air they consider it within spec. This is true even if the inside of the car is sweaty hot. Trust me on this because I have had this problem for almost 2 years.
#2676 of 4991 Re: Sqeaky Brakes [dride]
by hsrbikes
Nov 21, 2005 (10:15 am)
I was told that, overnight, rust builds up on disc brakes. Once you get going - brake a couple of times - the rust should 'break off'/rub off and no more squeaking. I took my car in 3 times for the same issue. This was the answer I kept getting. And for the most part -- after I brake a couple of times in the morning, mine no longer squeak.
#2677 of 4991 Re: Sqeaky Brakes [hsrbikes]
by mcap
Nov 21, 2005 (1:15 pm)
I don't think you should worry to much. I have an 04 civic and sure enough, each morning, there is rust on the brakes. I don't notice squeeling really but I am not listening for it.
#2678 of 4991 Squeaky Brakes
by dride
Nov 21, 2005 (1:44 pm)
Yeah, they are so loud when I brake in front of my house in the morning, the kids waiting for the bus cup their ears. I do only notice this in the cold mornings, and cold evenings if I am at work late. This seems like a silly thing to go back to the dealer with, but since there is a TSB...
The brand has been taking a beating in my family...hard starting back in August, now squeaky brakes at Thanksgiving. I can't wait to hear from the old folks, "They sure don't build 'em like they used to!" when I squeak up in the morning.
At least Mazda's customer service has been pretty good (I'd say excellent, but I don't want to jinx myself).
#2679 of 4991 No Doughnuts
by dride
Nov 21, 2005 (1:49 pm)
I have been tempted to spin some "doughnuts" on some streets with fresh snow. After reading about the E-Brake not locking the rear wheels, this will not be possible in the M3, which will really damper my winter fun. This sure won't be a fun winter car!
#2680 of 4991 Re: Squeaky Brakes [dride]
by dride
Nov 21, 2005 (2:17 pm)
I jinxed myself. My service advisor (after admitting they were really backed up today)told me if I left it overnight chances are they would not make any changes or adjustments. He is aware of the TSB, but if the squeak only happens on the FIRST brake on a cold morning, they will not fix. Apparently, his Mazda does it too, and it is "just part of the Mazda experience". It's little things like this that annoy me...
#2681 of 4991 Re: Squeaky Brakes [dride] by dride
by z71bill
Nov 21, 2005 (2:45 pm)
I would PUSH back on the squeaky brake issue and try and get them to fix the noise.
I have owned several vehicles - that on the first few stops in the morning would have a small squeak or more often a slight grind - like SSSHHHH - this is normal - a very loud - long squeak is not.
If squeaky brakes are normal ask the service manager to show you a new Mazda3 with squeaky brakes - if it really is normal then they all should do it RIGHT?
#2682 of 4991 Re: No Doughnuts [dride]
by qddave
Nov 21, 2005 (3:55 pm)
I wouldn't worry about not being able to pull a donut in the snow. The friction of fresh snow is a little less than asphalt.
If you're keeping the stock Goodyears on through the winter, than I really wouldn't worry.
#2683 of 4991 2004 VS 2006 AC
by z71bill
Nov 21, 2005 (6:56 pm)
I picked up my Mazda3 tonight - stopped in to the parts department and ask them to look up the part numbers for a 2004 and a 2006 AC evaperator for a Mazda3 - both numbers are the same - based on this it looks like Mazda has not upgraded the evaperator. So I predict next summer you will see posts from people who purchased a 2006 asking "Is anyone having trouble with their AC not cooling off the car?"
#2684 of 4991 Re: Sqeaky Brakes by dride & oldmazownr [z71bill]
by oldmazownr
Nov 21, 2005 (8:15 pm)
Thanks, yeah, that may be it, although the whizzing sound is a pain. It clears as time goes on. The brakes squeak. I couldn't care about the brakes though. Every disc car from 1983 LeCar to brand new M3HB.
I will mention this, I had a 2001 Volvo S40, it had the same "problem" with the rear brakes wearing first.
Lastly, I will get satisfaction over the AC though. My dealer's first car they sold me was wrecked before they sold it to me. No mention of that, just something I found during a wash and wax thenext day. Took it back... but we'll see about the other...