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That 0-0-0 thing... by lemko
Dec 18, 2006 (8:55 am)
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...not only burned Mitsubishi but a lot of folks who thought they could get ahead by not making payments on a vehicle for a year. I heard that Mitsu's finance arm had to do a lot of repos. But hey, they were briefly the most popular cars in many of Philly's marginal neighborhoods!
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Re: That 0-0-0 thing... [lemko] by div2
Dec 18, 2006 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 18, 2006 8:55 am)

The same is true with regard to those 6/12/24 month no interest appliance and electronics deals. I forget the exact percentages, but an overwhelming majority of people don't pay it off during the promotional period. We've taken advantage of those deals numerous times(TV, fridge, dishwasher, washer/dryer, ZTR mower), but we always paid them off before any interest accrued.
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Re: Negative Equity [alteredwithin] by corvette
Dec 19, 2006 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: alteredwithin (Dec 17, 2006 10:11 am)

I can pay I just don't want to.
 
That was the vibe I got, I just wanted to be sure...
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Re: Negative Equity [corvette] by sky23213
Dec 22, 2006 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: corvette (Dec 19, 2006 1:15 pm)

Ditto.
This thread gets a desperate posters every now and then that are quite the same. I remember the gal that had to have a SUV at the end of 2005, when the gas prices were attached to a booster rocket and Metro Transit and bike shop were raking it in. Then a few months later she could not afford to put gas in it.
I have no pity towards them any more.
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Help for Mom? by yusuf1
Mar 10, 2007 (4:13 am)
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Hello, all. My mom got a 2006 Chevy Malibu last July. Well, just last month she had complications from heart failure and had to have triple bypass surgery. Of course now she's in recovery and probably won't be able to work to keep the car.
Suggestions? We know the finance company wants the money, not the car. Is there any way out of this short of repossession?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Help for Mom? [yusuf1] by joel0622
Mar 10, 2007 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: yusuf1 (Mar 10, 2007 4:13 am)

Yusuf1, talk to the finance company, explain the situation and if it is a prime lender they will work with you. Just make sure that any promises to pay are kept. If they work with you and you fail to hold up your end they will come and pick up there car. Finance companies are very understanding with folks who are straight up with them and hold up there end. They justhave no compassion for those who feed them a line just to get another 30 days of driving without paying.
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Good advice by fezo
Mar 10, 2007 (11:19 am)
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I have had a time or two of having to do pretty much exactly what joel0622 describes. I've got a few physical problems that will lay me low for a while and I am the one at home that writes the checks and keeps the finances. In early 2002 I was pretty incapacitated for a month. Even when I could get around and do a little that payment didn't seem on the rush list when I was busy with recovery. I made a call to the lender on my car loan and explained the situation. They could not have been nicer about it. I proposed just skipping a month and extending teh loan out a month. No problem.
 
My one other experience like that in my memory was a credit card that has an insanely low interest rate from quite a while ago on a transferred balance deal. Again I was ill and missed a deadline. This resulted in a late fee and the great interest rate turning into an ugly one. My wife made one phone call and they took off all fees and brought the interest rate back down. This was not a company normally known as nice guys. If you are straight with them they will usually make something work.
 
Just a note - if your credit stinks and you have a history of late payments or defaults the above will not hold true.
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Re: Help for Mom? [yusuf1] by bolivar
Mar 10, 2007 (11:39 am)
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Replying to: yusuf1 (Mar 10, 2007 4:13 am)

One thing to think about.
 
Is your mother going to lose this car anyway? In other words, she is not going to be able to get the money to make payments? And, there is noone that will take the car and take over the payments? (Be very careful here. You don't want someone else to physically have the car, not make payments, and your mother still have the loan in her name. You need to have a lot of confindence in the person taking over the loan...)
 
Is the car worth more or less than the remaining loan amount?
 
If it is worth more than the loan amount, selling it for this would be the way out.
 
If it is not worth the loan amount, and it will be lost in any case, don't make any more payments, these will essentially be lost money. Just call the finacnce company and make arragement to return the car. This is still a repo, but there is no reason to have the car towed, with possibly personal items inside that have to be retrieved, etc.
 
If it's a lost cause, give it up.
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Repo by bolivar
Mar 10, 2007 (11:56 am)
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A thought for this thread....
 
I recently saw a relative lose a car. Bought from one of those By Here, Pay Here places, I think.
 
He was behind. They sent out a couple of girls/young women to talk to him. If he would have given up the car, I think they (since there were 2 of them, one to drive his car), would have taken it.
 
After talking to him, and another family member talking to them, they did not take the car. I think they might have gotten $100 or so, which still did not get him caught up on the loan.
 
In a few days he got some more money together, which he paid aganist the loan. But in a couple more weeks he continued to be behind and lost the car.
 
Anyway, I got to thinking about this. They send out a couple of young girls, not 'Big Fred' with a tow truck, greasy overalls, and a big wrench in his back pocket. These non-agressive girls can successfully pull a few more dollars out of him. (From 'loans' from family members that are not actualy loans since they will never be paid back.) They probably come by a time or two again and pull some more money, but he never has enough to be 'caught up'.
 
The car is taken back. Any of this additional money they were able to pull out of him after he got behind is just more gravy for the BHPY seller. They've got the car again, it's a semi-junker in about the same condition as when he got it a few months ago, they will be able to resell the car again for the same amount he bought it for.
 
Anyway - The bottom line. If you are going to lose the car, let it go. Any money given in the last few days is just gone. It is an expensive way to get a few more days transportation.
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Re: Repo [bolivar] by joel0622
Mar 10, 2007 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: bolivar (Mar 10, 2007 11:56 am)

Any of this additional money they were able to pull out of him after he got behind is just more gravy for the BHPY seller
 
I guess thats one way to look at it. Another way would be that they collected more of the money in which he/she signed a contractual agreement on.

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