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Owe more than it's worth... I'm upside down and I can't get up!

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Re: negative equity [w9cw] by div2
Dec 07, 2006 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: w9cw (Dec 07, 2006 1:26 pm)

Hyundai, unfortunately, is still the laughing stock with some uninformed consumers, just as Honda and Toyota were back in the '60s and '70s.
 
Just to clarify, I'm not biased against Hyundai- I've even recommended them to my non-enthusiast friends. I couldn't endure owning any vanilla FWD sedan- Civic, Elantra, Camry, Lancer(EVO excluded of course), Fusion, G6, or whatever. Fact is, the Cooper S JCW is about the only FWD car I would consider owning.
 
When you've owned both[Civic and Elantra] as my wife and I have, you'll know what I mean.
 
I'll have take your word for it. The reason being, as Peter DeLorenzo would say, is because that is simply notgonnahappen.com...
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Re: negative equity [explorerx4] by sebring95
Dec 08, 2006 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Dec 07, 2006 6:18 pm)

Everybody can badmouth VW all they want, but my best vehicle investment to date was a '77 bug convertible my wife just HAD to have (i argued). I never liked them but paid somewhere in the $3,000 range IIRC for a white over white model. Sold it in 1996 for $14,500. Now if I would have listened to my father in 1971 (a dodge/plymouth salesman at the time) and bought that Plymouth Superbird for $1500 that they couldn't get rid of......but that kind of cash was pretty tight back then for something I though was hideous to look at.
 
FWIW, with the exception of leasing some vehicles for business/tax purposes I've never made vehicle payments. Probably lucky I guess because it seems like once you start financing something (particularly when younger) you're stuck making payments for life.
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Re: negative equity [kyfdx] by wlbrown9
Dec 08, 2006 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 06, 2006 4:20 pm)

My real fear on this would be someone running into you and totaling it out. Unless you find a way to collect quite a bit in pain & suffering or whatever, the insurance company will cut you a check for the $9K or so it is worth and then the bank will want the balance to close out the loan. So, if you owe $18K for example and get $9K insurance payout, guess who has to try and come up with the other $9K. Plus, if you need a vehicle to replace the totaled one, you need to come up with even more cash for a little down, etc. Looks like the fast lane to bankruptcy if you ask me.
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Re: Negative Equity by alteredwithin
Dec 16, 2006 (4:53 pm)
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Alright so my story. I bought a 05 Honda Accord. My parents came into some money problems so I traded it in for an 03 Nissan Maxima dropping my payments 150 a month. But now I have Negative Equity and owe almost 8k more than what the car is worth... I want to just go get another car loan and stop making payments the Nissan. Will they just repo the Nissan? Not quite sure what will happen since I owe more than what it is worth.
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Re: Negative Equity [alteredwithin] by corvette
Dec 16, 2006 (8:47 pm)
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Replying to: alteredwithin (Dec 16, 2006 4:53 pm)

Yes, they will repo the Nissan if you stop making payments. Then, the bank will obtain a judgment against you for the difference between its value and what you owe. If you have any assets, they will attach those to get reimbursement. If you are on an employer's payroll, they will garnish your wages to obtain payment.
 
Why do you want to get another car loan if you can't pay the one you have?
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nissan by stickguy
Dec 17, 2006 (8:24 am)
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an '03 Maxima is still a fairly new car, and if maintained, will last a long time. So, your best bet (unless you have 8K lying around to pay it off), is to just keep it, and make the payments until you own it. If you do manage to trade it in, the neg eq. isn't going to go away, it will just somehow follow you to the new car, and probably get even bigger.
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Re: Negative Equity [corvette] by alteredwithin
Dec 17, 2006 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: corvette (Dec 16, 2006 8:47 pm)

I can pay I just don't want to. I want another car lol but from what you are telling me I am stuck with this I don't need my paycheck getting garnished. Thanks for the information you are the only one that was able to give me a straight answer.
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Re: Maxima negative equity by occupant1
Dec 17, 2006 (10:21 am)
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Maximas have good resale value. Keep an eye on the TMV for your car, check it every month or two. And when your cash in hand equals the difference between what you owe and what you can sell it for, you're ready to get out from under the payments.
 
Another idea is to list your car for sale as "take over payments" and possibly someone with less than stellar credit can get your bank to accept them and pay off the note, leaving you free and clear.
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Re: Negative Equity [alteredwithin] by pch101
Dec 17, 2006 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: alteredwithin (Dec 17, 2006 10:11 am)

I don't need my paycheck getting garnished.
 
This may not be a factor. Reposssession laws vary by state as to whether a "deficiency judgment" (a judgment that requires you to pay the amount above the value of the vehicle in the event that it is repo'd) is permitted. Read the link below from the Federal Trade Commission for more information.
 
That being said, I would either keep the loan current or else try to sell the car on a TOP basis, as was suggested above. Perhaps as an alternative, you can refi the loan or otherwise find a way to reduce the interest rate, if that happens to be high. Whether or not you are upside down, the lender is not going to hesitate to take your car if you stop making payments.
 
You don't want a repo on your credit rating. That will be an expensive mistake that you will literally pay for with all of your future borrowing costs just as long as the repo is on your credit report.
 
FTC link
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Re: Negative Equity [alteredwithin] by grandtotal
Dec 18, 2006 (6:13 am)
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Replying to: alteredwithin (Dec 17, 2006 10:11 am)

I can pay I just don't want to
 
I'm sure you don't, and you shouldn't have to. Just drop the car off at the dealership and post the keys in their mailbox, they'll take care of the rest.

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