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Smart Shopper Owe more than it's worth... I'm upside down and I can't get up!
1160 messages, Last post on Oct 22, 2009 at 7:11 PM
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...is one awful monthly payment for a lease! I paid much lower monthly payment than that to BUY a new Cadillac, (No, I didn't finance it for 60+ months!)
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 01, 2006 10:06 am) Our average Range Rover lease is around 1,200 a month for just 15,000 miles a year. |
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Explains why I don't have a Range Rover! "2) A dealer buys the car for the payoff (through trade-in usually). If the trade-in value is less than the payoff, which it almost always is, the lessee will have negative equity that has to be dealt with, just as in any other negative equity trade-in situation." And that, in a nutshell, is why I never have and never will lease a car! I have a friend who does almost a lease it to himself deal, which is to say that he buys the car when the old one hits 50K. He trades in or sells the old one and throws a couple of thousand into the pot. In the end he has a car loan that approximates a lease payment and a capital investment in the car. A depreciating asset to be sure, but he has equity in it that you'd never have in a lease. I'm thinking of buying his next outcast. The last several have been Subaru Outback wagons and he takes fanatical care of everything he owns. I could live with that. He sold the last one to a friend as well. |
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I have rolled as much $13k into Hyundai Elantra's before. When the car only cost $11k. How does that work? It's called having flawless credit and taking an 84 month term. There are banks out there that will loan close to 200% of invoice. Trading out of a car to lower a payment is about the dumbest thing anyone can do. First off chances are you owe more than the car is worth so you will have to roll negative which will bump the payment more and then how much are you going to lower it $50, $100 big deal. Why roll money and start over brand new payments just to drop it a few bucks. If your payoff is low and you really cant afford the payment look at refinancing the balance to something you can afford. You may pay on it longer but its a lot better than putting negative money ontop of a loan on a depreciating commodity
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Replying to: hyundai_slsmn (Dec 06, 2006 2:12 pm) 84 months on an Elantra ... OUCH!!
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Replying to: jlawrence01 (Dec 06, 2006 3:22 pm) Seriously... Can you imagine still making a $450 payment on a 6-yr-old Hyundai?
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 06, 2006 4:20 pm) I doubt that I could endure owning an Elantra for 84 minutes... 
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 06, 2006 4:20 pm) Can't imagine making a $450 car payment, period. I was cleaning out my desk last month and located the only two car notes I ever signed - $128 and $132/ month .... loans at 17% and 12% APR. OUCH!
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Replying to: jlawrence01 (Dec 06, 2006 8:11 pm)
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it was around $460 or so but actually coming down from $580 on the previous vehicle OUCH It's surprising and alarming how many 78+ mo notes I've written. What's even more sad is the person who is so compulsive as to go that long on a car loan just to make it affordable would never even come close to keeping it that long. I think if i ever got out of the car business I could go into personal financial planning. |
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