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Owe more than it's worth... I'm upside down and I can't get up!

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Re: Keep it or sell it? [mcrrt] by qbrozen
Oct 09, 2007 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: mcrrt (Oct 08, 2007 8:34 am)

well, $9k equity does seem unlikely to me ... but let's assume that is accurate.
 
As blueiedgod said, you owe less on the Jeep than you would pay for the used vehicle. You are proposing paying $9k for a 2000-2001 with 60k miles to replace your '04 with 38k miles that you owe less money on. It just doesn't make good sense, IMHO.
 
My advice? Take one step at a time. If your vehicle is the highest interest bill you have, then make minimum payments on your credit cards and hit that car payment with everything you've got till it is paid off, then you can concentrate on those cards. In the meantime, as others have said, transfer the balances if you can and need to. I've got us down to just 1 card now, and it has a 1.9% fixed rate till it is paid off ... so I'm in no rush to pay it off, but I'm not making minimum payments, either. It wasn't too long ago I also had a 2.9% fixed balance. I made small payments on the 1.9% and hit the 2.9% with everything I could. The 1.9% now will be gone by next summer. My car payments are high, and that bugs me, too, but they are leases and I have determined that finishing out the leases and then buying used vehicles with cash is the best course of action.
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LA Times article on upside-down numbers by corvette
Dec 30, 2007 (5:08 pm)
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As an added bonus, they cite statistics from Edmunds:
 
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-autoloans30dec30,0,4315064.story
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Re: LA Times article on upside-down numbers [corvette] by qbrozen
Dec 31, 2007 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: corvette (Dec 30, 2007 5:08 pm)

The way the article started, I was prepared for more lender-bashing. But at least the subjects of the article admitted it was their own fault. That's the first step to recovery, right?
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Re: LA Times article on upside-down numbers [qbrozen] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 31, 2007 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Dec 31, 2007 9:42 am)

I like the part where she claims they don't have any options.. Uh, keep driving the car until it's paid off? Time will heal all, as long as you don't buy another car..
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Re: LA Times article on upside-down numbers [kyfdx] by qbrozen
Dec 31, 2007 (9:49 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 31, 2007 9:46 am)

yeah... and its only a year old!! What the hell did they think would happen?!
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LA Times article on upside-down numbers by sky23213
Dec 31, 2007 (1:22 pm)
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Talking about picture being worth a thousand words....
I laugh every time I look at the picture, their expressions are priceless.
And as I have stated before in this discussion, I have absolutely no pity for people like that. 5 cars in three years! Man! And an Expedition at that, why ?!?! I'm sure their neighbors are very impressed though.
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Re: LA Times article on upside-down numbers [sky23213] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 31, 2007 (1:26 pm)
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Replying to: sky23213 (Dec 31, 2007 1:22 pm)

I'm sure when they lived in California, and it cost $2500/mo. to rent a 2-bedroom apartment, those car payments didn't seem like all that much...
 
But, once you move home to Kansas, and Daddy says, "Your car payment is HOW much!!", then you start to look like an idiot..
 
Good old Midwestern values.... can't beat 'em!
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Re: LA Times article on upside-down numbers [kyfdx] by sky23213
Dec 31, 2007 (1:37 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 31, 2007 1:26 pm)

2500?! Wow! That's more that my mortgage, car pmt and insurance
That reminds me of Craig T. Nelson in "Coach" reacting to the price his daughter was paying for 1BR in NYC : 1600!!! Kelly, you can a get a little farm with a farmer for that in Minnesota!"
I'm still still amazed at an earlier post that you can't get anything under 650K in some parts of CA. That means that people have to make twice as much compared to other region, or hold multiple jobs.
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Re: LA Times article on upside-down numbers [corvette] by oregonboy
Dec 31, 2007 (1:50 pm)
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Replying to: corvette (Dec 30, 2007 5:08 pm)

The classic clueless Americans who conclude that they must be able to afford it, or the banks wouldn't loan it to them. Now they are stuck with two TRUCKS that they can't afford to sell, and with rising fuel prices may soon be unable to afford to drive.
 
Doesn't anyone pay attention to what is happening on this planet??? I admit that credit is too easy and the lenders must share the blame, but good grief people, THINK before you buy.
 
rant-off
james
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Wow by guss
Jan 03, 2008 (4:33 am)
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the average amount financed hit $30,738
 
I thought the average new car purchase price was like $28k. So the average new car financed is for more than what it is worth ? If thats the case the credit arms of the manufacturers are going to be the next one to be looking for a government bail out for their customers.

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