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You are in the Toyota Highlander Hybrid
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Toyota Highlander Hybrid, Hybrid Cars, SUV
#905 of 4026 Re: $8000 Premium for HH? [phoebeisis]
Jul 01, 2005 (5:39 pm)
I've been through the hybrid break even from gas savings argument through two generations of the Prius and now the Highlander (not so much with the 2001 Prius) which has made me rather sensitive on the subject, since if all you are interested in is saving $$$ you don't want a hybrid. It was really the $8,000 figure (which I've seen bandied about by others online) that pushed me over the edge, since my personal research didn't come close support it. Sorry if I went overboard.
I only meant that your figures seemed biased against the HH, except for what used to seem to be expensive gas. You pointed out some valid factors that I had failed to take into account as well. One thing I've learned is that it is too much work to try and figure out the real difference in price between the conventional and Hybrid Highlander when Toyota offers a $750 rebate in Dover, DE and no rebate in Newark, DE on a conventional Highlander.
Glad we've worked it out.
#906 of 4026 Walt-no problem.
Jul 01, 2005 (6:03 pm)
Walt,no problem.Heck the "fun-ness,new ness,quickness and Green ness,and different ness,1st on block ness" are all more important.Heck,I must be out of my mind because I'm seriously considering trading my Titan and $21,000- for one.I sure as heck won't figure-and don't want to know- the break even on that!
#908 of 4026 Re: Wiring harness missing? [chgohhltd]
Jul 03, 2005 (7:48 pm)
I just had a toyota hitch installed by the dealer (NW-suburbs of Chicago). I don't know what was in place before the installation but a harness now snakes from the hitch through a rubber grommet on the underside of the vehicle (driver side behind the rear wheelwell) and plugs into the vehicle wiring harness. I had to remove the black plastic tray located behind the wheelwell to access the harness. The parts list also indicated that a "converter" was necessary for the wiring. I am not sure what that is but there was a loose electrical device (looked like a big relay) also plugged into a different location of the harness. I suspect this was the converter because it was not secured to the vehicle (like everything else installed by the factory) even though there was mounting bracket attached. It was just hanging loose.
My understanding is that with all Highlanders, the converter is required for trailer wiring and I believe Toyota is the only source. The dealer parts department should be able to tell you what is needed. Hope this helps.
#909 of 4026 Re: Wiring harness missing? [bean88]
Jul 04, 2005 (7:19 am)
Is the hitch you mentioned a 'Class II ' hitch ?
Also, my dealer quoted a $450.00 price for the hitch + installation.
#913 of 4026 Re: Wiring harness missing? [ulev]
Jul 04, 2005 (12:40 pm)
I think it is a class III hitch with a 2" receiver. The decal on the hitch lists the towing capacity of 3500 lbs which corresponds with the capacity of the 4WD HH. I can't remember if the tongue weight was rated at 300 or 350. I made a deal for the hitch complete when I bought the HH so I only paid $250 installed. Look online and you can get the same Toyota hitch (Toyota # PT228-69045) for about $250 plus shipping. It is actually the same as the 2005 model hitch. It will take you 20-minutes to install the hitch and you do not have to drop the exhaust like you would with some other aftermarket hitches. You won't even need to jack up the car or remove anything.
The converter (# 08921-48860) can be had online for about $60. It will take you about 10-minutes to figure out how to remove the black plastic tray behind the wheel well then plugging the harness in will be easy. You can get a ball and ball mount from Toyota (mine came with it) or you can get it at Walmart for about $22 which is what I would have done if necessary.
I would have taken this route if the dealer wanted to charge me too much.
Hope this helps.
#914 of 4026 How does it all work?
Jul 04, 2005 (1:19 pm)
I've read a number of messages on this forum that indicate how parts of the HH engine/motor system works. Does anyone know of a good web site that goes into some detail-- --preferably including diagrams-- --about how the whole HH system works?