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#82 of 3930 Info from Chicago Auto Show by ssachnoff Feb 20, 2004 (10:28 am)
D. Grayson, I, too, went to the Chicago Auto Show (on the last day, albeit) and found out less info than you posted above. I did get the gray/black handout but was disappointed overall at the lack of hard info available.   Different folks told me contradictory things. I asked about how to increase the chances of getting one when they come out. One person said go to the dealer who sold the most Priuses because they'll get the biggest allotment of HH's. Then someone else told me that, since every dealer sells every Prius they get, searching out dealers based on Prius sales would be useless. Now, a dealer from an underprivileged area told me to place the order with him because he thought he wouldn't have much demand for the HH and I'd be more likely to get one that way.   Some people said that all the HH's would have the third seat.   Others said that there would be an equal number of HH's and HH Limiteds. I find it hard to believe that the non-loaded versions will be first off the line, but who knows.   P.S. I was also told that the release date of the Lexus hybrid (the RH400?) has been pushed back to November. I find this distressing since I was hoping that its earlier release date would siphon off some of the "first on their block" types, as well as those for whom money is no object, leaving the HH for those of us with more modest budgets.   What did other patrons at the Chicago Auto Show learn about sales, price, options, etc.?
#83 of 3930 Release date by petl Feb 20, 2004 (11:27 am)
Since Toyota's vehicle life cycles are 5 years, would it not make sense to release the HL hybrid in 2005 as a 2006? That is when the HL is scheduled for a redesign. The Lexus is only in the second year of its life cycle. Just a thought.
#84 of 3930 by dgrayson Feb 20, 2004 (3:09 pm)
My upstairs neighbor just ordered the Lexus 400H and was guaranteed (in writing) of a delivery date prior to Oct. 15th or he would receive signicant rebates. So I think they will be coming by early Oct. at the latest.   Secondly, I asked about the remodel thing and was told there is a strong chance that the remodel may be coming in the 2005 model, part of the reason for the late release date of both the regular highlander and the hybrid.
#85 of 3930 redesign of HL? by wco81 Feb 20, 2004 (5:05 pm)
But they've shown pictures of the HL hybrid with pretty much the current design. The main difference was LED tail lights.   Same for the RX400H, which was going to have LED tail lights but looked otherwise the same as the RX330.
#86 of 3930 hmmm by jchan2 Feb 20, 2004 (7:21 pm)
I think the Highlander Hybrid will be another hit, just like the Prius. HYBRID MANIA!!!!!
#87 of 3930 Hybrid mania by alpha01 Feb 21, 2004 (9:27 am)
My father, who has never expressed an interest in SUVs, recently received an email from Toyota corporate (No doubt because of prior loans through TMCC) regarding the new Hybrid HL. He emailed me as soon as he got it, and said "This is our next car". WHAT? So I told him more about it, and he is REALLY interested. Unfortunately, if most of the Hy's are Limited in trim line, and sticker north of 33K, I dont really think its financially possible. But, this really demonstrates the market penetration that an SUV with 27MPG average, while still offering power and room- can generate!   So I started selling him on the virtures of Vehicle Skid Control, and the new V6s in Camrys... we will see. In a perfect world, Id really like to see an AWD Camry AND a Hybrid Camry AND a Hybrid AWD Camry!!!   alpha
#88 of 3930 Hybrid mania by alpha01 by petl Feb 22, 2004 (6:45 am)
Make mine an AWD Hybrid Sport Wagon Camry. I would trade the 4WD Matrix and the Camry XLE in for one tomorrow, if it existed. Where do I sign?
#89 of 3930 Atkinson Cycle by samalter Feb 23, 2004 (9:38 pm)
First of all, thanks to everyone who have given their time and knowledge to this board. It's been a very useful resource to better understanding what I might expect when I order my Highlander.   Does anyone know whether the Hybrid Highlander will use an Atkinson cycle engine? It's listed as a selling point to Toyota's Synergy Drive in the '04 Prius, and since the hybrid Escape will also be using one, it might be a nice advantage.   http://www.toyota.com/about/tomorrow/ads/hsd.html   I for one would welcome the idea of sacrificing some power to favor efficiency on an already supercharged V-6. If it were the case it might also help to explain the surprisingly high "significantly better than 27.6 combined MPG" that's been touted.   Thanks again.
#90 of 3930 Re: Atkinson Cycle by usbseawolf2000 Feb 24, 2004 (4:02 pm)
>> Does anyone know whether the Hybrid Highlander will use an Atkinson cycle engine?   Answer: Yes.   I have not seen Toyota revealing it for a fact yet. But reasonings from the understanding of HSD imply so.   >> I for one would welcome the idea of sacrificing some power to favor efficiency on an already supercharged V-6.   With Hybrid Highlander, you don't sacrifice power. You'll gain power and efficiency with HSD technology. It is true that Akinson cycle will make less mechanical(engine) power than Otto cycle Highlander. Hybrid Highlander will have electric super charged power advantage. 120KW (161hp) motor in the front and 4WD-i version will have 50KW (67hp) motor in the back. Electric power is what you want. High torque instant delivery. Hybrid Highlander is suppose to be faster with 0-60 about 8.5 sec.   Dennis
#91 of 3930 No redesign of 2005 HL by ssachnoff Feb 25, 2004 (3:34 pm)
The vehicle I saw displayed at the Chicago auto show was substantially the same as the 2004 HL. The rep I asked about any design changes told me just the back lights, a little curvature in the body lines and the grill cover.

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