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#74 of 3943 Highlander by heatherk9e Feb 13, 2004 (2:40 am)
Wow, I am sure glad I found this message board! I found out the Toyota Highlander Hybrid from the International Auto Show and it sure grabbed my attention quick! I just was trying to find out more information about it and see if people were talking about it but all I found was press releases until this site.. I need another car, and the one I have just doesn't cut it for me anymore ( too small, old, can't really use it for anything) so I was trying to figure out what to get next for a car.. SUVs were always a problem beacuse of their reputations of being gas guzzlers.. Then finally a hybrid SUV! Damn that is the smartest thing that Toyota as done.. and that guy from GM sounds really ignorant, doesn't he notice that a lot of car companies are going towards hybrid and the market is changing? If they want to keep up with the market trends, they have to keep up with the competition..   Oh well, Im just really curious about the pricing of it.. I've been reading over all the messages with what the predictions will be.. Most likely it will be a bit more expensive, but if you wait until the end of the year ( If there isn't a large demand but there might be) and buy it then, you usually get a discount because car lots clear out say the 2005s for 2006 models beacuse they aren't considered "new" but hell I wouldn't care   And I'm gonna be curious about the reliability and quality issues it might encouter.. It might be more reliabile like John just said, but we'll have to wait and see..   I'm from BC Canada, and the bonus for me is that I think I wouldn't have to do that stupid Air Care thing if I get it I'm just mostly worried about the price..   Anyways just wanted to give my thoughts on my first post..
#75 of 3943 welcome heather! by 6thbeatle Feb 13, 2004 (2:59 am)
i think just as a fun promotional gimmick, toyota should give away free car bras to the first 1000 customers who buy the new hybrid highlander, but make the promotional car bra in a tartan design, so they can claim that not only is the new highlander fully loaded with good stuff under the hood, but that the new highlander is now also fully clothed. now i wonder if anyone manufactures an automotive sporran?
#76 of 3943 John... by tvwxman Feb 14, 2004 (4:34 am)
SUV doesn't equal comfort in your book? Apparently you haven't driven in Atlanta traffic. Not the most cofortable place to be in a small car.
#77 of 3943 comfort ? by john1701a Feb 14, 2004 (7:43 am)
Based on that comment, I'd assume you mean "illusion of safety" to be the meaning of "comfort". Many people do in fact feel larger is better, despite the reality that lower & smaller vehicles handle better.   I associate "comfort" with what you sit on, how much the steering-wheel & seat & pedals can be adjusted, along with how much leg room is available. You can also in other aspects, like how good the Heat & A/C work and the quality of the sound system. Heck, even the cupholders can be something that contribute to "comfort".   There's nothing wrong with a moderate-size hybrid SUV, but it should be properly represented by avoiding terms that can be easily misunderstood.   JOHN
#78 of 3943 by kirstie_h HOST Feb 14, 2004 (1:59 pm)
The reason there are so many different body styles is that people do have varying wants and needs in a vehicle. And, one person's comfort is another person's sore back. For tvwxman, the SUV may provide the most comfort for his driving needs.   But one thing we're not gonna do in here is go down the line of conversation taking place in I don't like SUVs..., LOL. Let's try to stick to the hybrid Highlander.
#79 of 3943 saw the new 2005 Hybrid Highlander by dgrayson Feb 14, 2004 (5:18 pm)
Went to the Chicago Auto Show today and saw the Hybrid Highlander on display. Talked with the dealer at length...   What I picked up: 1. Orders will start in mid summer (expect long lines- Lexus dealer in area already has 50 preorders for the 400h (almost as many as he will be allocated)). Plan on delivery in Feb/March of 2005, although chance of getting in in Jan.   2. Cost will run most likely in the 3000-5000 range over the non-hybrid (At least that is what they are saying right now- I'm not convinced).   3. Almost all the hybrids will be produced in the Limited line.   4. And most important... the battery will be guaranteed for the life of the car (as long as it is on the road & transferable to all future owners at no cost)
#80 of 3943 Highlander Hybrid by jchan2 Feb 16, 2004 (5:45 am)
I sure hope Toyota makes a bunch of them to keep the waiting lists short. Guess it'll be hard to find a base model with the third row seat since most of them will be fully loaded Limited models.
#81 of 3943 as far as numbers produces by dgrayson Feb 16, 2004 (9:28 am)
Well, the dealers had no info on the numbers to be produced, by by using Toyota's numbers let's see:   300,000 hybrids by 2006 so...   50,000 Prius made this year (with long waits) so production will increase probably to 80-100,000.   Lexus is wear the $$$ and forward looking demand is (Lexus buyers are even more willing to spend the extra $$$ on options such as hybrid so... I am looking for 100,000+   So that leaves the highlander with a max of 100,000... demand is going to eat these up!!!
#82 of 3943 Info from Chicago Auto Show by ssachnoff Feb 20, 2004 (9:28 am)
D. Grayson, I, too, went to the Chicago Auto Show (on the last day, albeit) and found out less info than you posted above. I did get the gray/black handout but was disappointed overall at the lack of hard info available.   Different folks told me contradictory things. I asked about how to increase the chances of getting one when they come out. One person said go to the dealer who sold the most Priuses because they'll get the biggest allotment of HH's. Then someone else told me that, since every dealer sells every Prius they get, searching out dealers based on Prius sales would be useless. Now, a dealer from an underprivileged area told me to place the order with him because he thought he wouldn't have much demand for the HH and I'd be more likely to get one that way.   Some people said that all the HH's would have the third seat.   Others said that there would be an equal number of HH's and HH Limiteds. I find it hard to believe that the non-loaded versions will be first off the line, but who knows.   P.S. I was also told that the release date of the Lexus hybrid (the RH400?) has been pushed back to November. I find this distressing since I was hoping that its earlier release date would siphon off some of the "first on their block" types, as well as those for whom money is no object, leaving the HH for those of us with more modest budgets.   What did other patrons at the Chicago Auto Show learn about sales, price, options, etc.?
#83 of 3943 Release date by petl Feb 20, 2004 (10:27 am)
Since Toyota's vehicle life cycles are 5 years, would it not make sense to release the HL hybrid in 2005 as a 2006? That is when the HL is scheduled for a redesign. The Lexus is only in the second year of its life cycle. Just a thought.

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