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#483 of 4026 extended warranty
Apr 27, 2005 (8:15 am)
I will buy an extended warranty on the Hybrid Highlander IF I can get the same thing as is offered for my Prius:
I can wait until the end of the third year of service after purchased new (the end of the new car warranty).
I can buy, at a high discount, the extended warranty from another Toyota dealer which offers this... there are at least two dealerships which do this and are listed in the Prius 2004 Forums. If anyone is not aware of these, I will look them up and post them here.
btw, my last message was deleted by the Moderator because I mentioned a web site for Toyota which the Moderator considered a violation of my agreement to not post anything for sales. So, I have been hesitant to mention the following but will do so since it should not be a violation of the "agreement" with this Edmunds Forum:
New info has been posted recently at Edmunds.com regarding the 2006 Hybrid Highlander. This appears in several related sections including one which says that the next HH re-design will be in two years and probably use some features of a new concept car of Toyota. This seems to be a design which incorporates a SUV and sedan specs and I think it might have a more powerful engine.
Personally, I would not want the next generation if it is smaller and with a more powerful engine (should have worse fuel consumption with a more powerful engine)
#484 of 4026 Re: Entertainment Center [fizban]
Apr 27, 2005 (9:57 am)
It doesn't, it just means that the warranty would only be affected on the tampered part and any directly related components.
I agree that making the hybrids capable of power generation would be great (like the GM pickups), but I suppose that Toyota must have a reason.
#485 of 4026 Does the HH need high octane gas?
Apr 29, 2005 (9:47 am)
The recommended octane for the HH is conspicuously missing in the specs I have seen. There are reports that Lexus recommends using 91octane or higher for the RX400h, saying it will run on 87, but with a slight loss of power. Since I have read that the powerplants for the Toyota and Lexus are identical I assume the same will go for the HH.
What bothers me is not a slight loss of power, but whether that loss of power results from knock detectors kicking in and retarding the ignition with regular gas. If it is on the verge of knocking, might there be long-term damage done? Since I assume many HH buyers are interested in lowering their fuel bill this seems like an important issue. Why save 20% on mpg and lose half of it back buying more expensive gas? Maybe I should be asking Lexus hybrid owners if they know. But I am first on my dealer's list for a HH.
#486 of 4026 Re: Does the HH need high octane gas? [tsotsi]
Apr 29, 2005 (10:09 am)
Electronics being what they are I would think they could compensate for lower octane fuel along with altitude & pressure. I read here on Edmund's that the Toyota Sienna HP was rated with Premium Unleaded yet is sold as a regular unleaded vehicle. I would imagine they share engines. One person has reported getting better mileage with Premium. It may end up a wash. I doubt it would hurt the engine to use regular if that is what they advertise.
#487 of 4026 Will HH work for me if garaged for weeks at a time?
May 03, 2005 (7:00 am)
I live in Manhattan and use my car irregularly -- it often sits garaged for two or three weeks at a time and then I use it for a weekend trip and then it sits for a week, etc.. Will a hybrid work with this kind of usage? Will the batteries run down? Is there a downside to a hybrid in this circumstance? Any thoughts?
#488 of 4026 Re: Will HH work for me if garaged for weeks at a time? [jpny]
May 03, 2005 (7:11 am)
Will a hybrid work with this kind of usage?
I don't think a week would be a problem. They say on the Prius you have to disconnect the battery or it will discharge. I don't think Toyota has got a handle on this situation. That was one of the things that deterred me from the Prius was not being able to just leave the car for 3 to 6 weeks in a parking garage, then just come jump in and take off.
#489 of 4026 Re: Will HH work for me if garaged for weeks at a time? [jpny]
May 03, 2005 (8:14 am)
In Msg 1064 of the Lexus RX400h forum, tsotsi made the comment that Lexus has issued warnings about the effect of leaving hybrids in storage -- that is without the battery getting a charge -- for more than a few weeks.
That leaves one to wonder what happens if one does, and what the remedy is. Perhaps get out your 600v battery charger
#490 of 4026 will HH work for me if garaged for weeks?
May 03, 2005 (3:14 pm)
The Smart Entry system can be turned off at the Dash and this helps keep the 12 v battery from running down. Of course, any car accessory which needs electricity should be turned off. Most people would not need to disconnect the 12 v battery ...unless the car is sitting for a very long time, maybe over approx 3 weeks.
I had a dead 12 v battery in the Prius 2004 because I did not drive it for 3 weeks and did not turn off the Smart Entry. It was very easy to jump start using the very accessible terminal under the hood. I used another car and jump cables. The manual explains this very well. The Prius 12 v battery can be jumped with even less of a charge... reports are of multiple large lantern batteries jump starting the Prius.
A cheap trickle charge battery will easily keep the 12 v battery's charge. If you buy the type which shuts off when a full charge is accomplished, that works the best. If someone is available to push the power button and just get the car in the "Ready" status for several minutes periodically, that keeps the charge also.
The car does not need to be started completely.
I assume that the same procedure can be used with the Hybrid Highlander.
This "problem" is not a significant one and should not deter anyone from buying the Toyota hybrid.
#491 of 4026 Re: will HH work for me if garaged for weeks? [dmbflorida]
May 03, 2005 (5:37 pm)
There was a problem with the 12v battery used in the early Prius in that it wasn't very large and the alarm system could drain it in a couple weeks. The best approach where possible is to run the car for a minimum of 30 minutes at least once a week to ensure the 12v battery gets a full charge. However a "battery tender" type charger would suffice.
If you left the car long enough it's possible the HV battery would discharge to the point where it could not start the engine, but I think you're talking well over a month for that to be a problem. Also, the HV battery can charge much more quickly than the 12v battery, so a few minutes running would top it off.
#492 of 4026 Re: will HH work for me if garaged for weeks? [stevewa]
May 04, 2005 (10:19 am)
The dealer bulletin tells dealers to disconnect the 12v battery if it will be stored for 30 days or more.