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Toyota Highlander Hybrid, Hybrid Cars, SUV
#410 of 4026 Latest info...
Apr 04, 2005 (10:49 am)
I've got mine on order.
The Lexus version is supposed to roll out sometime in the next week (4/10). Add 90 days to that to come pretty close to the Highlander version.
It's interesting that the Lexus version is offering an entertainment package (DVD player). I don't see that offered on the Highlander.
I also heard "no dealer add-ons". Toyota doesn't want anyone tapping into the wrong power lines. Can't say as I blame them.
Too, I guess this thread title should be changed to the "2006 Hybrid Toyota Highlander", since that'll be their designation.
#411 of 4026 Re: Specified a Highlander Hybrid today [zoomer1]
Apr 04, 2005 (11:11 am)
Zoomer, the dealer says that he cannot provide any solid delivery date. Although I believe that as the time gets closer, the HH will be able to be tracked through the production cycle. The only information that he received from Toyota was regarding the demo unit that they will be getting in the next few weeks and that customer deliveries for pre-specified HH's will begin in June. Although I am #1 on the dealer list and the first one to specify my HH at that dealership, he said it doesn't necessarily mean that my particular specified HH will be the first to arrive. I am assuming that it will arrive sometime between June and September, which is just fine. Our 2000 Yukon 4X4 has been trouble-free for 80K miles and has many more to go. Unfortunately the resale value is quite low since the new ones are very highly discounted. I paid $500 over invoice in early 2000 and I believe that I can purchase a "like" 2005 model for less money.
I forgot to mention that I have ordered the HH with 4WD. I am located in Northern California. My dealer says that he expects to get 16 units. All were spoken for many months.
#412 of 4026 Re: Specified a Highlander Hybrid today [nsxwes]
Apr 04, 2005 (11:38 am)
Thanks! My dealer would not order any 4x4...interesting. I will be number 1 when any 4x4 shows up. I tried to order a fully loaded limited 4x4 but was told to wait until late summer or early fall. I can have a FWD in June if I want but am not interested in that. The midwest area my dealer is in is getting a total of 45+ units...3 states I think.
#413 of 4026 Buy a Hybrid at MSRP...Hmmm...Expensive
Apr 05, 2005 (5:50 am)
A 2005 or 2006 Non-Hybrid Limited V6 with 4WD/Third Row/Leather/6 CD changer and all the other Jazz will cost me $31,500 (out of the door). On the other hand, I need to spend $39,290 (or more) for a Hybrid. That's a premium of around $8,000.
At 15,000 miles per year and $2.50 for a gallon of gas and a difference of 8 miles per gallon between hybrid and non-hybid, I would still need 16 years to break even, from the gas perspective.
I know some people have rightly pointed out its not all about the gas economy on this hybrid? If its about the upgraded power to 270HP....tell me really for a SUV that is clearly marked for sub-urban and city use...do you really need that 40 extra horses? If its about driving a hybrid vehicle, do you think its a good idea to wait and watch if they have any recalls during the first year or hear owners grumbling about any hidden costs of ownership? Is there really a tax break on hybrid vehicles for year 2006?
I believe the existing highlander is decent enough and the other thought i had earlier is that i am gonna buy one of these highlanders and go on an earth saving mission but the reality is that there appear to be many people out there with deep pockets willing to pay a premium on this vehicle.
Fact of the matter is if Toyota makes 20,000 of these...they will all be bought and the earth will still be saved as much as it can be ... guess my next vehicle will have to be a 2009 Sienna Hybrid V8 or something after this Highlander.
Some of the other cribs i have about the Hybrid is that they announced only 5 colors as opposed to 8 and even the higher end models do not have an LCD monitor showing the Hybrid engine diagnostics (Except if you get the Nav package). All I am saying is I would like to have one, but probably it is not for everyone at this point so people need to weigh in the options before runniing to the dealership and trying to book one (I know what you are thinking....."Sour Grapes".....right?? maybe...)
Enough said, looks like the right one for me is a 2005 or 2006 Limited V6 Non-Hybrid 4WD. Does anyone know if 2006 is changing in any manner (interiors/standard features)??
#414 of 4026 Re: Buy a Hybrid at MSRP...Hmmm...Expensive [rmanchi]
Apr 05, 2005 (7:30 am)
Yep, recouping your money on these hybrids is probably a long stretch. I'm doing it purely for the satisfaction of NOT donating as much money at the gas factory. Other things like ride, safety, and personal preference (from ownership experience) has lead me to the Highlander.
#415 of 4026 Re: Buy a Hybrid at MSRP...Hmmm...Expensive [rmanchi]
Apr 05, 2005 (8:29 am)
My problem is that I need to replace my 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee soon. I've got 90K miles on it, and it's starting to have expensive problems.
I have a choice - buy a non-hybrid that will meet my mission requirements (basically, a mid-size SUV with at least a little off-road capability) or buy the Highlander Hybrid. I've test-driven the Ford Escape Hybrid - it's too small and underpowered for me (even though my uncle, cousin and cousin's wife ACTUALLY build them in KC).
If I were looking at only non-hybrids, I'm not sure that the Highlander would be at the top of my list. I'd probably be looking at the Jeep GC, Nissan Pathfinder or something similar. The "utility" side of the Highlander isn't very strong.
On the other hand, if I can't buy the HH right now (due to availability), I have to choose between keeping the Jeep going a little longer or buying something non-hybrid that I'll keep for 7-10 years (that's how long cars/trucks last with me).
It's a tough decision. If gas hits $3.00 or $3.50 this summer, I might even ditch the SUV completely and look at the Escape Hybrid again or even the Prius.
#416 of 4026 Re: Buy a Hybrid at MSRP...Hmmm...Expensive [markrsmith83]
Apr 05, 2005 (8:38 am)
Re Prius--I ditched our Grand Caravan last spring for a Prius-sized 5-door (actually ordered a Prius, but that is an off-topic story). I figured for the few times each year I really need more than a 5-door hatchback I could use my 2 compact cars or rent a van. So a question to ask yourself is, how much do you really need the capabilities of an SUV, and if it's a few times a year, could you rent/borrow one? You could buy many rentals for the $10k more that a HH would cost you vs. a Prius--plus there's the gas savings to consider.
OTOH, if you routinely go offroad and need a 6-7 passenger vehicle, a 7-passenger SUV like the Highlander is a great way to go.
#417 of 4026 Make that 2006
Apr 05, 2005 (12:01 pm)
Maybe someone should change the title of this message board to "2006" Hybrid Toyota Highlander since that's what Toyota's calling the first bunch that come out in June.
#418 of 4026 Re: Buy a Hybrid at MSRP...Hmmm...Expensive [backy]
Apr 05, 2005 (12:08 pm)
I couldn't get my wife to go along with the Prius. She's more into style than substance. But she got the car she wants so now it's my turn....as long as it doesn't look too geeky. Oh yeah, the $2.64/gallon that she now spends on gas helped change her mind.
#419 of 4026 Negotiating a salesman
Apr 06, 2005 (7:41 am)
I'm on my local dealer's list to buy a HH. The dealer called me and asked me to come in and fill out an order sheet. I knew going in this that I would be paying MSRP. But here's the twist. The sales man I bought my other 2 cars from and the one who originally put my name on the waitning list is now gone. So now I've got through random luck of the draw another salesman. (nothing has changed regarding my status on the waiting list). I liked my previous salesguy and I'm sure this guy is fine. But I was thinking that these "pre-orders" are money in the bag for these sales men. You know you have a customer with a firm commitment to buy, the customer is going to pay MSRP, so BIG commision check- so basically like shooting fish in a barrel. If my old salesman was around, I would gladly give him the commision because he's helped me out a lot.
Here's what I'm wondering... I figure every salesman there would want to take my order for the reasons I've stated above. Can I go to each sales men and say something along the lines of "how much of your commision are you willing to give up to take my order?" Is there some kind of "code" among salesmen that would prevent them from doing this? just wondering....