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Re: Snow Chains for 2008 HH Limited? [stevedebi] by gabel
Jan 17, 2008 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Dec 10, 2007 12:10 pm)

I also would like to find out how to override the Nav. while moving. Thanks!
 
I tried SnowClaw rather than cable on my 08 HH. Not much luck.
I found AutoSocks which are made by the Swedish for their winter but no size for our tires (245/55/19). Yet, they are making the "Socks" for Toyota in Japan.
 
Thanks.
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NAV Lockout Override by stevegold
Jan 17, 2008 (1:44 pm)
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Replying to: gabel (Jan 17, 2008 10:11 am)

On my 2004 Prius and my 2006 HH to override the lockout:
Touch the upper left corner of the screen, then the lower left, the the upper left again,
then the lower left again.
On the next screen touch and hold the OVERRIDE box until you hear a beep.
You can now enter destinations and most other NAV commands.
 
Does anyone know how to do this on a 2007 HH?
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Re: HH in snow [emarcotte] by monte8
Jan 19, 2008 (9:23 pm)
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Replying to: emarcotte (Jan 17, 2008 6:12 am)

". . . the reverse is always electric so you have to be really careful when backing up and needing extra power in snow. . ."
 
Nothing in the owner's manual indicates that reverse is all electric. Obviously, the rear wheels are always electric. I have found that in deep snow (or coming up against a packed snowbank or ridge) the VDIM/traction control system will cut power. The cure for this is to simply take your foot completly off the gas pedal and then give it gentle pressure.
 
The combination of the gas and electric drive has very good low speed torque. I have not found conditions (although I am sure they exist) to get my 08 HH stuck this winter. This is in northern North Dakota. We have had good amounts of snow this year. In the mountains, I would look into snow tires.
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Re: HH in snow [stanwagon] by monte8
Jan 19, 2008 (9:31 pm)
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Replying to: stanwagon (Jan 15, 2008 4:20 pm)

". . . I did look at the Escape. Much cheaper. Maybe as good in many situations. But the HH is more of a luxury vehicle, for better or worse. . ."
 
The HH is larger than the Escape, but the base model HH is hardly a luxury vehicle.
 
The big factor for me is that the Escape does not have stability control. On icy roads an SUV without stability control is just an accident waiting to happen.
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salesmanship by stanwagon
Jan 20, 2008 (6:14 am)
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Re the preceding two messages: The Toyota salesman had a long list of Toyota-prepared comparisons of the HH with the Escape. I later learned from the Ford dealer that some of these comparisons were incorrect, or unfair. But the list was VERY VERY Long, to the HH advantage in all cases. Such a list did have an affect on this buyer. I noticed the high torque at low rpms for example (commented above) and the various safety systems. Anyway, still very happy with it in Colorado's very snowy winter.
 
As for luxury, despite the salesman's promises, we ended up with one with a package and features that we did not want: e.g., larger wheels, rear view camera, and a few other things that seem luxurious to me. Anyway, a technical question: What are the consequences of larger wheels (19 vs 17): Obviously it gives one inch extra clearance, which could be good sometime. But it adds weight and drag surely. Does it have a measurable affect on MPG? Might the larger wheels really be better in some conditions (snow, rough roads)?
 
PS: I complained a lot to the dealer about the extra stuff that I did not want or order and managed to get a few 100 dollars back as a goodwill gesture.
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Re: salesmanship [stanwagon] by monte8
Jan 21, 2008 (9:11 pm)
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Replying to: stanwagon (Jan 20, 2008 6:14 am)

". . . What are the consequences of larger wheels (19 vs 17): Obviously it gives one inch extra clearance, which could be good sometime. . ."
 
The larger wheels do not give extra clearance. The only advantage is that the lower profile tires (45 series on the 19" vs. the 55 series on the 17") will give "better" handling. They will also wear out sooner and provide a harsher ride (due to the shorter sidewalls). The wheels (also due to the shorter sidewalls of the tires) are more likely to be damaged by road hazards (potholes, debris, etc.). The main purpose is that some people think they look good.
 
Re-think the review camera. I have found that because of the tint on the rear windows I cannot not see anything out the rear windows when backing up at night. The camera gives a great view, at least of the close area. It is great for parking, I can bring the rear bumper up to about 3" from the bumper of the car behind me without touching it, and still see a gap using the camera.
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Re: salesmanship [stanwagon] by monte8
Jan 21, 2008 (9:13 pm)
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Replying to: stanwagon (Jan 20, 2008 6:14 am)

". . . What are the consequences of larger wheels (19 vs 17): Obviously it gives one inch extra clearance, which could be good sometime. . ."
 
The larger wheels do not give extra clearance. The only advantage is that the lower profile tires (45 series on the 19" vs. the 55 series on the 17") will give "better" handling, but not in snow or on ice. They will also wear out sooner and provide a harsher ride (due to the shorter sidewalls). The wheels (also due to the shorter sidewalls of the tires) are more likely to be damaged by road hazards (potholes, debris, etc.). The main purpose is that some people think they look good.
 
Re-think the rearview camera. I have found that because of the tint on the rear windows I cannot not see anything out the rear windows when backing up at night. The camera gives a great view, at least of the close area. It is great for parking, I can bring the rear bumper up to about 3" from the bumper of the car behind me without touching it, and still see a gap using the camera.
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Re: salesmanship [monte8] by srandyt
Feb 10, 2008 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: monte8 (Jan 21, 2008 9:13 pm)

". . . What are the consequences of larger wheels (19 vs 17): Obviously it gives one inch extra clearance, which could be good sometime. . ."
 
It is possible the "one inch clearance" is referring to the inner wheel, not the tire diameter. This would give more cooling airflow to the rear motors.
 
I agree about the camera. I sure wish I had one on my Tacoma so I wouldn't have to get in and out so many times when I hook up my trailer.
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HH and snow by stanwagon
Feb 10, 2008 (1:48 pm)
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We are having very above average snow year here in the Colo mts and so far the HH is behaving well. Not quite as good as the 1994 Explorer with its low range, but it has been fine in very heavy snow. The real test will come this summer on some of the rough roads to trailheads... the power is there, and the clearance is probably the equal of the Ford, but will the lack of gearing keep me away from places I am used to getting to? We'll see,
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Re: HH and snow [stanwagon] by volkov
Feb 11, 2008 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: stanwagon (Feb 10, 2008 1:48 pm)

We are in Northern British Columbia with plenty of snow and very cold temps. Do you have any experience or idea yet how much of a mileage hit you are seeing in sub-zero temps? We usually reckon on about 25-30% drop in mileage for our ICE vehicles during the 3 heavy months Dec-Feb. Is the HIHY comparable or worse?
FWIW we will be using the new vehicle almost exclusively in short to medium haul city driving.

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