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Highlander Hybrid in Snow by emarcotte
Jan 15, 2008 (8:34 am)
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I currently have a Prius and absolutely love it. But next month we are moving to Colorado and I'm going to need something with AWD. I'm considering the Highlander Hybrid and am wondering how it does in snow. We'll be living at 9000' where I'll be driving in snow alot but will also be 45 minutes from the closet grocery store and want the good gas mileage and low pollution of a hybrid. I'd like to know how the Highlander would fair.
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Re: Highlander Hybrid in Snow [emarcotte] by stevedebi
Jan 15, 2008 (1:50 pm)
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Replying to: emarcotte (Jan 15, 2008 8:34 am)

" We'll be living at 9000' where I'll be driving in snow alot but will also be 45 minutes from the closet grocery store and want the good gas mileage and low pollution of a hybrid."
 
In those conditions I personally would buy a Subaru. They don't get super mileage, but their 4WD systems are excellent. I think you would get as good MPG in the winter as you would with the HH, which is to say mid-20's. The HH does not compare with the Prius in MPG, so you are going to see a large drop in MPG no matter what you do.
 
You might also ask questions in the Ford Escape forum; I think the Escape AWD uses mechanical rather than electric propulsion. However, the Escape will also post similar numbers to the HH.
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HH in snow by stanwagon
Jan 15, 2008 (4:20 pm)
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We have a Prius and love it. We had a Ford Explorer (150000 mi, 1994) and decided to sell it and get the 2008 HH. We live at 9600 feet in Silverthorne, Colorado. So I asked the same questions you are asking not very long ago. I never got definitive answers, but it seemed worth a try to me, so we did it.
 
So far, in the snow (very deep snow this year, and we have steep driveway) it has been very good. Of course, there is no low-range, so I do not know how it will do on my various trips to certain gnarly trailheads. It has a HUGE amount of power though so I am cautiously optimistic. Twice I had to tow the Prius up into my driveway during a snow storm in past two weeks and it did so with no problem.
 
My feeling is that in these rough conditions it will be as good as a Subaru, and I have seen Subarus in very rough terrain. It probably won't be as good as the Explorer on some of the rough SE Utah roads we visit. But so far we are happy.
 
Mileage. Today: Filled up. Then drove to Leadville, skied, returned. MPG was 28 for the round trip. Should be better in summer. For shorter trips, and colder days, more like 25 MPG. I keep the ECON button on all the time.
 
I did look at the Escape. Much cheaper. Maybe as good in many situations. But the HH is more of a luxury vehicle, for better or worse. Some features I am addicted to -- like SMART KEY of course! Rear view camera is cute.
 
If you want to discuss this in more detail feel free to send me a private message:
 
wagonmacalester.edu (stanwagon.com)
 
PS to group: I finally figured out what the little white rectangles on the electric guage are for: "Keep the needle there for most efficient driving" says the manual (in pidgin English of course).
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Navigation Override? by stevegold
Jan 16, 2008 (5:03 pm)
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My 2004 Prius and my son's 2006 Hybrid Highlander both have an onscreen override to allow GPS navigation by a passenger while the car is in motion.
My wife's 2007 HH does not accept the same override codes.
Does anyone know of a code that will work?
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Re: Navigation Override? [stevegold] by fmroczka
Jan 17, 2008 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: stevegold (Jan 16, 2008 5:03 pm)

Can you please tell me the how to override that Navigation while in motion? Thank You Frank
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Re: HH in snow [stanwagon] by emarcotte
Jan 17, 2008 (6:12 am)
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Replying to: stanwagon (Jan 15, 2008 4:20 pm)

Thanks for replying. I read a comment somewhere that the reverse is always electric so you have to be really careful when backing up and needing extra power in snow. Is there a way to over-ride the electric when extra power is needed? I've also read that you can't fit cables on ( although I think good snow tires would be adequate). I'm pretty sure I've decided on the Highlander but just can't decide whether to put out the extra money for the hybrid. We have a boat that would be nice to be able to tow but 28 mpg sounds wonderful. Since you were a bit undecided too, is it safe to say you are happy with your decision to purchase the HH?
Thanks
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Re: Navigation Override? [fmroczka] by gabel
Jan 17, 2008 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: fmroczka (Jan 17, 2008 5:51 am)

I also would like to find out how to override the Nav. while moving. Thanks!
 
I tried SnowClaw rather than cable on my 08 HH. Not much luck.
I found AutoSocks which are made by the Swedish for their winter but no size for our tires (245/55/19). Yet, they are making the "Socks" for Toyota in Japan.
 
Thanks.
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Re: Snow Chains for 2008 HH Limited? [stevedebi] by gabel
Jan 17, 2008 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Dec 10, 2007 12:10 pm)

I also would like to find out how to override the Nav. while moving. Thanks!
 
I tried SnowClaw rather than cable on my 08 HH. Not much luck.
I found AutoSocks which are made by the Swedish for their winter but no size for our tires (245/55/19). Yet, they are making the "Socks" for Toyota in Japan.
 
Thanks.
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NAV Lockout Override by stevegold
Jan 17, 2008 (1:44 pm)
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Replying to: gabel (Jan 17, 2008 10:11 am)

On my 2004 Prius and my 2006 HH to override the lockout:
Touch the upper left corner of the screen, then the lower left, the the upper left again,
then the lower left again.
On the next screen touch and hold the OVERRIDE box until you hear a beep.
You can now enter destinations and most other NAV commands.
 
Does anyone know how to do this on a 2007 HH?
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Re: HH in snow [emarcotte] by monte8
Jan 19, 2008 (9:23 pm)
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Replying to: emarcotte (Jan 17, 2008 6:12 am)

". . . the reverse is always electric so you have to be really careful when backing up and needing extra power in snow. . ."
 
Nothing in the owner's manual indicates that reverse is all electric. Obviously, the rear wheels are always electric. I have found that in deep snow (or coming up against a packed snowbank or ridge) the VDIM/traction control system will cut power. The cure for this is to simply take your foot completly off the gas pedal and then give it gentle pressure.
 
The combination of the gas and electric drive has very good low speed torque. I have not found conditions (although I am sure they exist) to get my 08 HH stuck this winter. This is in northern North Dakota. We have had good amounts of snow this year. In the mountains, I would look into snow tires.

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