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Re: 2008 Gas Mileage with Hybrid [hotch41] by JBaumgart
Nov 11, 2007 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: hotch41 (Nov 11, 2007 11:55 am)

hotch41, have you considered getting a small commuter car, and saving your Acadia for times when you need the extra room?
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Re: 2008 Gas Mileage with Hybrid [JBaumgart] by chadx
Nov 12, 2007 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: JBaumgart (Nov 11, 2007 5:51 pm)

"hotch41, have you considered getting a small commuter car, and saving your Acadia for times when you need the extra room? "
 
That probably isn't a cost effective solution. First, you have to pay insurance on two rather than one vehicle. That alone would offset the improved mileage for most people. But if you happen to pay really cheap insurance, you still have to add in the cost of the second vehicle. Even if you only spent $5,000, that is a lot of gallons of gas. Buy anything cheaper and be faced with repair costs. Plus, you are not driving the vehicle you want. You are settling. And you now have two vehicles to try and fit in your garage (or have one sitting out on the street in the weather, etc.) Now your very nice primary car sits and depreciates without you even getting to enjoy it because you are commuting in some beat up little commuter car.
 
As nice as it sounds, in my opinion, buying a 'commuter vehicle' just doesn't make sense for most people, finacially or otherwise. I looked into doing this a few years ago and it would have cost me extra money per month. Your situation may vary.
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Re: 2008 Gas Mileage with Hybrid [kitsaphh] by drlonline1
Nov 12, 2007 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: kitsaphh (Nov 11, 2007 4:46 pm)

I've now had my HH for just over a week, and am still going on the first tank of gas. So far, my average is almost 27 MPG combined city and highway. I too use the Econ mode almost exclusively.
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Re: 2008 Gas Mileage with Hybrid [chadx] by JBaumgart
Nov 12, 2007 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: chadx (Nov 12, 2007 12:20 pm)

"That probably isn't a cost effective solution. First, you have to pay insurance on two rather than one vehicle. That alone would offset the improved mileage for most people. But if you happen to pay really cheap insurance, you still have to add in the cost of the second vehicle. Even if you only spent $5,000, that is a lot of gallons of gas. Buy anything cheaper and be faced with repair costs. Plus, you are not driving the vehicle you want. You are settling. And you now have two vehicles to try and fit in your garage (or have one sitting out on the street in the weather, etc.) Now your very nice primary car sits and depreciates without you even getting to enjoy it because you are commuting in some beat up little commuter car.
  
As nice as it sounds, in my opinion, buying a 'commuter vehicle' just doesn't make sense for most people, finacially or otherwise. I looked into doing this a few years ago and it would have cost me extra money per month. Your situation may vary."
 
I agree that it's probably not cost effective, but it's also an expensive proposition depreciation-wise to trade in a vehicle that's nearly brand new, just to save some gas. My reply was based on hotch41's desire to spend less on gasoline, and if that's his main objective he could buy a (used) small economy car for his 70+ mile round trip commute and come out way ahead in terms of his weekly gas bill.
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Re: 2008 Gas Mileage with Hybrid [hotch41] by jmpage2
Nov 12, 2007 (2:38 pm)
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Replying to: hotch41 (Nov 11, 2007 11:55 am)

Thanks jan123....I'm seriously consider getting rid of my '08 Acadia since although it's a nice vehicle and I almost have 2K miles on it, I can't seem to do better that 16-17 with mostly HIGHWAY driving averaging 60-70 MPH. I've spent $400 in gas since 10/23 alone and I'm pace to spend $500-$550 per month to gas this thing (unfortunately I drive 35 each way to work). Even if I do 7 mpg better based on your gas mileage experience, I'm sure the savings will add up rather quickly, even though, if I'm not mistaken, the HH has to take premium gas.
 
I'm still amazed that people would think it's a good proposition to dump a brand new vehicle and take a huge trade in hit, just to save a few bucks on gasoline.
 
Didn't you budget for gas costs when you bought the large Acadia?
 
Lets say that you trade in the Acadia and take a $3000 hit on it for getting rid of it so quickly (in all likelihood it has already depreciated MORE than $3,000).
 
That would be 1,000 gallons of gasoline at current prices.
 
1,000 gallons of gasoline in your Acadia would let you drive it for between 15,000-17,000 or more miles which is over a year's fuel for the average consumer.
 
The smarter move for you is to be more prudent with your trip planning, doing things such as combining all of your errands into a single trip, which can often be done mid-commute. Is your Acadia Flex Fuel capable? That could also save a little bit of pain at the pump.
 
At the end of the say I'm still amazed people buy $35,000 gas guzzling trucks and then have a shock that it costs $300 a month to fill them up.
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2008 Highlander Hybrid by jeniveve76
Nov 12, 2007 (10:39 pm)
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My husband and I have been doing research this past year and have finally decided on the 2008 Highlander Hybrid. What I'm running into is 4 different dealers saying "these vehicles only come with 1 of 2 packages, the PO (Popular Package) or PP (Popular Package Plus)" which adds an extra $2000-$3000+ depending on which dealer you talk to. My husband and I only want a standard without packages or options as we are satisfied with what comes standard and don't need/want all the extra fancy stuff. The dealers' reason is: "the vehicles we get depend on the region and in the Gulf States region, this is how they come". Another problem I'm running into is these dealers are telling me "what Toyota says is standard, may not be standard, depending on the region". This all sounds fishy to me and is frustrating. Anybody have a similar experience? I'm also looking out of state for comparison (we currently live in Central TX).
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Re: 2008 Highlander Hybrid [jeniveve76] by kdhspyder
Nov 13, 2007 (4:38 am)
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Replying to: jeniveve76 (Nov 12, 2007 10:39 pm)

These are new vehicles,out only for a couple of weeks. Whenever there is a new launch of any new vehicle they normally come loaded up. What they are telling you is correct in nearly every part of the country. The new HH all have at least one package or another. This will be true for at least the initial period. How long this initial period lasts depends on how the market receives the vehicles. If they're being snapped up faster than they hit the ground then that means that most of the buying public wants one or more packages.
 
At some point demand will slow down, in the case of the Prius it was 3+ years after initial launch. At that time when demand slows you'll likely be able to buy off the lot or at least order one without a package.
 
One other limiting factor all the dealers face is that all of these are being made in Japan until the new plant in Tupelo is completed. So whatever comes across on the next boat is what the dealers have to take....and the buyers too. This goes back to the demand question. If most buyers are asking for more rather than less then that's what the plants will build and ship.
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packages by stanwagon
Nov 13, 2007 (6:24 am)
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>>>The new HH all have at least one package or another.
 
I ordered one in August (Denver dealer), I really didn't want the third seat or any other package, and I wanted a certain color. My dealer tells me that the one I want is indeed coming in in a week or so...
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Re: 2008 Gas Mileage with Hybrid [jmpage2] by hotch41
Nov 13, 2007 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: jmpage2 (Nov 12, 2007 2:38 pm)

jmpage2...Actually what amazes me is that I didn't expect after much research on a vehicle (and believe me, I did a ton of it knowing I'd be spending this kind of $) with 3-row seating, that I'd be getting the city MPG estimate with my primarily highway driving. I guess you could say I fell for all the hoopla that the critics raved about how the Acadia stood out for the estimated gas mileage on the highway. Mind you, I know I wouldn't get 22 MPG according to the sticker, but I didn't expect to get the city mileage (16 MPG ALL THE TIME) and spend the money I'm spending. After all, you only could crunch so many numbers before making a purchase decision.
 
But you make me think more carefully about any drastic moves as my Acadia cost me quite a bit more than the $35K you indicated. It seems like I would never recoup the additional money outlay to get into the HH or even the conventional HL to get the gas mileage I thought I'd be getting.
 
In addition, although I did drive the HL prior to my purchase of the Acadia, the HL is much more agile than the Acadia. I bought the Acadia only for the amount of space it allows. I don't even drive my kids around on a daily basis and I should have purchased a vehicle based on something I'd enjoy driving during a long commute. The Acadia is a nice vehicle, just not too exciting. I know sacrifices need to be made, but either HL is more enjoyable to drive over the Acadia. I drove the HL again last night.
 
Anyway, thanks to all for your opinions and insight. It's been very helpful.
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Re: 2008 Gas Mileage with Hybrid [hotch41] by gagrice
Nov 13, 2007 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: hotch41 (Nov 13, 2007 12:10 pm)

I read a lot of the consumer reviews on Edmund's and 16 MPG seems about average. I tried renting one for a vacation trip. They tried sticking me with a Pacifica at the last minute and I ended up driving my PU truck. I cannot imagine taking the hit selling a vehicle after only a few months. Unless some Toyota dealer feels sorry for you and wants bragging rights taking an Acadia in trade. Just put it on Craigslist and maybe you will get a buyer, so you don't lose $5k to $8k on the trade.

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