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us v canadian prices by lynnkushnir
Jul 01, 2007 (2:05 pm)
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hey groove, purchasing a toyota in the u.s. for canadian transportation is not exactly going to germany for your mercedes and driving through europe on your way home. canadian prices just have not been adjusted to reflect their changing dollar and meanwhile, catch a good deal while you can.
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speed by rag
Jul 01, 2007 (4:27 pm)
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Lynn,
I believe the reason they are so fast is that there are 2 engines. The 6 cylinder gas engine has about 208 horsepower and the electric motor has about 72 HP. This is for the 4 WD-i models. Even with the extra weight of the batteries that is a lot of HP. When you hit the gas hard both motors kick in and give the HH a lot of acceleration. They are really fun to drive but all that speeding around hurts the mileage.
Hope this helps.
Richard
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highlander hybrid 300 hp? by lynnkushnir
Jul 01, 2007 (8:12 pm)
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hey rich, thanks for advice, i'm no speed demon but 300hp is certainly better than 208hp, what would you say, 0-60 in ??? thanks again, lynn
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Re: highlander hybrid 300 hp? [lynnkushnir] by cdptrap
Jul 03, 2007 (8:01 pm)
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Replying to: lynnkushnir (Jul 01, 2007 8:12 pm)

The 2008 model is 270-hp, so there is no 300-hp HH unless Toyota has changed its spec. The '06 version is 268-hp.
 
I saw the torque curve of our 2006 HH and I believe it applies to the '07 as well but not sure about the '08. In any case, maximum torque is achieved at around 1200+ RPM so the car will rocket off the starting line and push you into the seat.
 
The '06 got 7.5 sec 0-60. Probably same for the '07. Edmund did a test on the '08, they will have data on the 0-60 run.
 
A note of CAUTION on driving the HH. The car is very smooth and quiet and accelerates EXTREMELY quickly. You will hit 80-MPH before you realize it. My wife scared us to death twice when we first got our HH. We have learned to be careful with the gas pedal.
 
If your HH comes with those cheap, soft and squishy Goodyear Integrity tires meant for minivan, it may actually spin a little or squeal a bit. If it comes with a good set of SUV tires, they will grip and get moving.
 
A good set of SUV tires will significantly improve the handling of the HH.
 
Hope you have a good purchase and enjoy your new HH!!!
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Re: HH - can it run when out of gas? [brandttoy] by erikp
Jul 11, 2007 (7:37 pm)
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Replying to: brandttoy (Jan 22, 2007 6:54 pm)

Regarding the "out of gas question"
One answer from a dealer stated "don't do it" you will burn out the electric motors. I have since decided not to test this.
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Re: highlander hybrid 300 hp? [cdptrap] by wwest
Jul 12, 2007 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: cdptrap (Jul 03, 2007 8:01 pm)

"A good set of SUV tires...."
 
Methinks most owners/drivers of modern SUVs of this type, size, and weight class drive them in just the same way they would a regular passenger car. In which case a set of nice quiet and comfortable riding Bridgestone Turanzas would BEST suffice.
 
"will significantly improve the handling of the HH."
 
Only if most of your driving involves adverse roadbed circumstances which for the clear majority of us it does NOT.
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Re: HH - can it run when out of gas? [erikp] by stevedebi
Jul 12, 2007 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: erikp (Jul 11, 2007 7:37 pm)

"Regarding the "out of gas question"
One answer from a dealer stated "don't do it" you will burn out the electric motors. I have since decided not to test this."
 
Pure bunk. The HSD will run out of juice and shut down the electric motors long before any potential overheat occurs.
 
For the rear propulsion, the HSD will shut down the motors if they heat up. Hence the provision that the HH is not a "true" off-road vehicle - the AWD system will not engage for extensive periods.
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An interesting thought came to mind in looking over the pricing.. by kdhspyder
Jul 12, 2007 (1:09 pm)
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..on the new gasser Highlanders.
 
The Ltd 4WD versions with all the options can run up to $43K apparently. A normal version without Navi ( $39700 ) or with Navi ( $41300 ) is exactly the same MSRP of the previous Gen HH.
 
So here are the options when the new HH arrives.
Do they keep the price similar as they normally do?
Bump it a little?
 
Both vehicles will have the same size and features inside and out. They both will have about the same HP. Performance? Probably the same or close. But the HH will get about 15-25% better FE depending on environment and usage.
 
So which do you choose? Assuming both are priced at $41300 as 4WD Ltds with Navi but no RES.
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Re: highlander hybrid 300 hp? [wwest] by cdptrap
Jul 13, 2007 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Jul 12, 2007 9:24 am)

Hey! We use the Bridgestone Turanzas on our Sienna van. It is still a softer tire but quiet and smooth, great for easy cruising AND it has 2-ply sidewall! So I mostly agree with you.
 
The stock Goodyear Integrity that came with the '06 HH had single-ply sidewall. It was a puncture waiting to happen. A 4200-lb SUV on single-ply sidewall tires? Is Toyota stupid? If nothing else, I would change it to at least a double-ply sidewall tire, SUV or minivan or whatever.
 
With the Integrity, our HH felt unstable and insecure to drive, at least to me. It leaned a lot on turns. It bounced, jiggled and rocked over imperfections on paved surface. It was also loud. Luckily, we lost an Integrity to a sidewall cut (see!?) and we desperately needed a replacement so the shop recommended SUV tires. We were pleasantly surprised by the improvements.
 
The car is smooth, quiet and glues to the surface, very stable and a joy to drive. Being a farm work horse (truck, tractor) type, I was never into "handling". Work horses are strong and slow, they need no fancy handling. Our experience with the HH really opened my eyes.
 
Good tires also mean higher safety margins in general, so there was no downside to getting rid of those Goodyear Integrity tires.
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Re: An interesting thought came to mind in looking over the pricing.. [kdhspyder] by cdptrap
Jul 13, 2007 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 12, 2007 1:09 pm)

I would pick the '08 HH. The '08 HH still has SULEV II rating, now tows 5000-lbs, gets real-life (Edmund) 28-MPG on ECON mode, and has those neat little meters to help drivers match power/speed to efficiency, something I would love to see in the '06 HH. Toyota sort of answered most of our wishes except for the I4 and the plug-in.
 
Most impressive is the price stability. The '06 HH Ltd all decked out was $42K and the '08 is only $41K? That means I can probably get a minimum of $2K off righ off the bat and that knocks it down to $39K. On internet deals, may be another $1K off? So $38K for the '08 HH? Good deal.

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