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Toyota Highlander Hybrid, Hybrid Cars, SUV
#3469 of 4026 Re: can't decide if I should buy an 07 or wait for the 08 HH [haymista]
Jun 10, 2007 (3:30 am)
The main difference I see is in the way the interior space is used. The second row console can be removed (and replaced), so that you can have a second row bench seat, or two non-removable captain chairs, and a pass through to the third row. Also, the third row folds down, so when you don't need it, you have extra space in the back. For me this is important because I have kids with car seats, and as you know, you can't always fit three car seats across a bench (depends on the car seat), and if you have a baby and need to get inside, well, the bench is impractical. Also, it is easier to load three kids into two rows with a pass through than a bench. They don't have to wait outside the car while the other ones get into their seat; the one in the back gets in first, and the other two follow immediately.
The Dodge Durango Hybrid has captain chairs and a third row, but the gas mileage is not as good. The Chrysler Aspen 2008 Hybrid Hemi will also have bucket seat options for the second row, but I doubt that the gas mileage will be as good as the Highlander.
A lot of people, who have the "07 want MP3 player access, and Bluetooth technology. If you don't need the third row, you may want to look at the Saturn Vue Green Line Hybrid; you can get it all decked out, and still pay less less than the Highlander. The main draw back is that their '07 SUV isn't 4WD.
Others to look at: Chevy Tahoe Hybrid 2008; Jeep Liberty Diesel; Mazda Tribute Hybrid; Lexus RX 400H
Toyota should be looking at how to make the Highlander their, AWD, hybrid, family vehicle--sort of like the Sienna, but with AWD capabilities, so that those of us who live in the mountains and need an AWD SUV, but also need to put three young children in car seats have space and power with good gas mileage.
#3470 of 4026 seating highlander hybrid
Jun 10, 2007 (7:48 pm)
accessability to the highlander third row by removing 2nd row console certainly enables one to put three young children in the vehicle (three car seats or two car seats and a booster). what the third seat does not allow is leg room for jr high students. this is really not the vehicle for a soccer mom with carpool responsibilities. a sienna awd with hybrid capability would be incredible. can you imagine driving a mini van with the power of a V8 engine,awesome! it's probably around the corner, the technology is certainly there!
a family vehicle though really does need an mp3, bluetooth and navigation. these items are no longer extravagant expenditures but necessary safety precautions especially when driving long distances with children. but you can't put your children in a substandard hybrid vehicle for the sake of these options either. if leasing the highlander hybrid ltd which comes fully equipped is too costly, lease the regular hybrid highlander (V6, w/ 3rd row seating & AWD) and add just the options you need. the end of lease buy out on any of the lexus or toyota hybrids is still cheaper than what the vehicles will be selling for in three years off a lot, if you can even find one! what about the exterior of the 08 highlander hybrid? is it going to begin to look more like the lexus rx 400h?
#3471 of 4026 Purchasing '08 vs. '07
Jun 12, 2007 (5:40 am)
I am looking at purchasing a highlander hybrid AWD and wanting to know if it is worth waiting for the changes on the "08 vs. the "07. I understand that the 08 is on a Avalon fram vs. a camery frame. Anyone have any information?
#3472 of 4026 Re: Purchasing '08 vs. '07 [lucy10]
Jun 12, 2007 (8:10 am)
The '8 will be bigger than the current model. Think Honda Pilot size. The current hybrid model has some very attractive discounts, rebates or financing options presently. The next model probably will not for a while.
Look at www.toyota.com to see the styling of the new '08.
The new HH will be here in late Sept/Oct. The current model is dated certainly since it first came out in 2002. The same trim levels will be on both models with the same drivetrain 3.3L + HSD.
#3473 of 4026 The Next NEW Hybrid Highlander...???
Jun 12, 2007 (8:16 am)
The Prius is the launch platform for new technologies especially in the hybrid segment and the toy department.
The next Prius with a new power system will be launched in Oct 2008 as a 2009 model. It's expected to utilize Li-Ion batteries being smaller, lighter and more powerful with a new ICE linkage possibly. And what else???
I'd expect the HH and TCH to overlap this by a year or two each before the siblings also get the updated hybrid power system from the Prius.
#3474 of 4026 battery guage and usage
Jun 24, 2007 (7:00 am)
I want to thank all those on this forum who helped me with the questions i had about my 06 HH. I finally understood what pulsing and gliding is and my mileage went from 18-20 mpg up to 25-27 mpg. I feel this is fantastic for NYC driving. I used wonder how to keep the battery charged also. Now i believe the goal is not to keep the battery charged. The computer technology does that automatically when needed. It seems to me you actually want the battery to fluctuate up and down which shows you are actually using the electric engine more. This is how you get the gas mileage they promise. If the battery is always charged to the max, you are not using it very much and therefore are running on gas more ofter (worse mileage). This is my recent observation after a year worrying about "keeping the battery charged". Now it goes up to 7 bars and down to 3 bars constantly and my mileage has improved dramatically. Hope this helps.
#3475 of 4026 Re: battery guage and usage [rag]
Jun 24, 2007 (5:31 pm)
you really got 27 mpg in city w/ a 7 seater 4x4? and please explain again how you got this mileage, & how do you not charge the battery?
#3476 of 4026 Re: battery guage and usage [lynnkushnir]
Jun 24, 2007 (6:08 pm)
He didn't say he doesn't charge the battery. He said he leaves the battery charging up to the vehicle control systems. That makes good sense.
#3477 of 4026 battery
Jun 24, 2007 (8:19 pm)
md is correct. You get the best mileage by using the battery to run the electric engine. So when you run down the battery, you have been using the electric motor. A car this sophisticated will charge the battery when it is needed. The key to getting good mileage is fairly simple and toyota should have some instruction for this when you but a $35,000 car. Accelerate to your desired speed fairly quickly (or fast), LET OFF THE GAS PEDAL COMPLETELY, and touch it again gently to go on electric alone. It works best below 40 mph and at fairly steady speeds. It will work at highway speeds if you are going slightly downhill. After letting up on the accelerator completely, just touch it until your power gauge shows the arrow pointing to the wheels and no gas engine is visible. I have been driving for over 35 years and this style was very difficult to learn. But it was worth it. Search this forum for pulse and glide see what you find. Good Luck.
#3478 of 4026 Re: battery [rag]
Jun 25, 2007 (5:50 am)
After driving for an hour in my Prius resulting in a 'full' charge so to speak I can drive the last 2 miles home at a speed under 41 mph on battery/e-motor alone not burning an ounce of fuel.
In most residential areas the max speed limit is 25 mph so this isn't particularly difficult to do.