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Toyota Highlander Hybrid, Hybrid Cars, SUV
#3213 of 4026 Re: Toyota Sales up in June [martharhoades]
Jul 24, 2006 (1:11 pm)
Ford is not stopping production of the Escape and Mariner. Ford is just changing its strategy by switching to Ethanol, the easiest way to earn EPA rating without really cutting gas usage or emission.
The following are two links where I saw the news:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/29/AR2006062901911.- - html
GM's Wagoner recently talked about how hybrid is really "difficult" but is politically correct. He whines and remains skeptical that hybrid is viable.
Have you seen the later HUMMER commercial? They are now marketing it as a red-meat eating "manly-man" car. Gas is >$3 a gallon and all is as before. I would take a "racer-boy" HH over a "manly-man" HUMMER any day.
As I drive our HH everyday, enjoying its capabilities and practicality, I keep asking why we cannot build a car like this. We used to be the innovator, the cutting-edge leaders, making the rest of the world chase after us. Now we are the whiners and whine about how hard this is and that is and how we just cannot build a "better" gas-efficient lower-emission car.
Toyota on the other hand is charging ahead with hybrids. They are behaving like "us" by taking the lead and making it happen. Toyota has announced work on plug-in and biodiesel. I am waiting for their 2-mode gas-electric hybrid truck.
GM is really going to hurt when Toyota comes out with a real 4x4 V8 that tows 6500-lb but gets 25-MPG real-life. I will jump at a chance to buy this truck for our work. I will love to hear what Wagoner will say then about the GM trucks?
#3214 of 4026 Re: Seatbelt Sensor Options? [deserthh]
Jul 25, 2006 (8:55 am)
Now that was useful. Any more insight that might be helpful???
#3215 of 4026 Re: Seatbelt Sensor Options? [deserthh]
Jul 25, 2006 (9:30 am)
Okay, so maybe I'm a bit cynical thinking that no modifications of the safety systems are allowed for legal reasons. I'm actually very surprised you can turn this off!!!
I stand corrected, apologize for the tone of my last posting, and I'm pleased to see Toyota letting us have more control over our world, and letting us take responsibility for our actions!
#3216 of 4026 Need some imput
Jul 25, 2006 (10:46 am)
I am trading in my Toyota 4Runner for the HH. I want to know all the real pros and cons of this car. Is there enough space for people and cargo? How well do it really run? Does it make noises? I want any and all imput on everything even down to the cup holders. I would love to hear from as many owners as possible. Do you love it or hate it and why. I will be transporting a preschooler and all that involves. Thank you so muck in advance for all the help and advice.
#3217 of 4026 Re: Need some imput [melski]
Jul 25, 2006 (12:05 pm)
I traded an 04 4Runner, Sport, V8, 4wd for an HH, Ltd, 4wd, and have never looked back. The only thing I changed was the tires; I put on a set of Nokian WR's, which are an all season tire that is winter rated. I used to get 12-18 mpg with the 4Runner, am getting a steady 25 mpg with the HH, in the mtns of western NC. I just came back from a trip to CA, and got as high as 30 MPG (admitidly in a a long down hill leg). I loved the 4Runner, but like the HH much better. The seats are more comfortable, without that "sitting on the floor" feeling the 4Runner had. Noise? there is none. It's vastly smoother than anything I've owned (2Audi's, MB's, assorted Hondas) The CVT transmission is a big factor in this. Power - awesome!! Lots more than the 4Runner. I now have 7500 mi on it. BTW, I switched to Mobil One synthetic oil at 5000 mi, and I keep the tires at 36 psi, both of which help gas mileage a little.
#3218 of 4026 Re: Need some imput [melski]
Jul 25, 2006 (5:25 pm)
First and foremost...If you have reason, or have had reason, to rely on the 4runner AWD system, or most especially the 4runner's 4WD system, you will be deeply disappointed in the HH.
If you have ever used snowchains on the 4runner be aware that the HH cannot be fitted with rear snowchains and snowchains only on the front as recommended can be very hazardous.
Lastly, the HH is derived from a FWD based vehicle and as such will be front torque biased even with the AWD model.
Bottom line is that you will be moving from a rear torque biased vehicle to one with radically difference driving dynamics.
So be carefull.
Jul 25, 2006 (10:23 pm)
This is probably an impossible question to answer. I'm planning on buying an HH before October, when the federal tax break is reduced. The problem is that I don't know whether I should look for one now or wait a little while longer. It doesn't seem like there are many purchasing incentives for HH's except for financing breaks, so I don't see any reason to wait for that. Does anyone know if they've stopped producing the 2006 models in preparation for the 2007/2008 ones? I don't want to wait too long and not get the model/features that I want. Does anyone have any information about production changes or incentive changes that might be coming in the near future? Any advice would be appreciated.
#3220 of 4026 Re: Need some imput [melski]
Jul 25, 2006 (11:42 pm)
You can use 4 chains on all 4 tires. Front tires take chains that cover the entire tire. Rear tires require chains that fit the outer half of the tires or outer 2/3. We use Spikes Spider in the rear for our HH. Try their link...
HH is not a true 4x4. It will negotiate dirt road, muddy road and most non-asphalt surfaces that are identifiable as roads. It cannot handle boulders or the RUbicon or a drive up the desert pavement into Johnson's canyon in Death Valley.
If you install good tires (not the stock Goodyear Integrity), the HH is smooth and silent on pavement. Handling is very impressive. We have driven it around many curvy mountain roads, it handles solidly around curves with no sensation of the car leaning at all. This quality continues to please and amaze us each time we drive it up these roads.
Steering is responsive, neither twitchy nor numb, just right for an SUV. Check out this video of the HH doing its thing...
Cargo room behind 3rd bench is tolerable, not great. We can fit 4 large geared-up backpacks (for 10-day back country outing) and one large cooler but that is it. You should go to a dealer, load it up with things you normally carry to see if it suits your needs.
What we lost in cargo room, we gain in maneuverability. It can turn and move through tight spaces easily. Still, 10 more inches of cargo would have been really nice.
View through the rear window (rear mirror) is surprisingly good even when piled full of cargo. We were surprised by how much we can pile on and still have a solid rear view on the road. This comment does not apply when you are backing up in a parking lot.
Seat comfort is for either 4 adults or 5 children (2nd and 3rd rows). Adults will find it difficult to get in and sit in the 3rd row.
A 6+ ft adult will need to adjust the driver seat a bit to get in smoothly. This is my regular gripe. I must have the seat adjusted just so to ease entry and egress. One inch off here and there, my left knee hits the steering wheel getting in.
6-fter can easily sit in all the other seats. We have comfortably fit 2 6-fter in the 2nd bench with a child in the middle. Everyone was comfortable for the 4 hour ride from SF to Redding in CA.
3-rd row has no curtain airbag so putting children and people back there is risky. I find this lapse in feature rather foolish.
It has no tire pressure monitor and yet the VDIM system will not work if the tire pressures are off. This is really dumb. So get a good tire gauge and check the pressure every week.
The FWD version will save you gas. The AWD version rockets you along if you ever need the power.
Break-in can take forever (5000-10000 miles) so you have to set your MPG sight accordingly. I never believed in the new car "break-in" period until this car.
Driving it normally will yield MPG number better than most other comparable SUV in the same class but it will not get you Prius-like MPG. Driving it carefully will yield very good MPG, significantly better than other comparable SUV but still cannot compare against a Prius.
#3221 of 4026 Re: Need some imput [cdptrap]
Jul 26, 2006 (7:11 am)
THANK YOU for all your wonderful information.
#3222 of 4026 Re: aiming headlights [deserthh]
Jul 26, 2006 (8:00 am)
How heavy is your boat? Other than the headlight problem, how is the towing experience?