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#122 of 3943
Just read the news ... HOV lane in CA by ceric
Apr 10, 2004 (12:23 am)
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A proposal is been strongly supported by our Terminator governor and other high-level state governor officials to pass the state law to allow Hybrids to ride on HOV lanes (we call car-pool lanes here). It went on to say that it is very likely to pass due to recent hike of gas prices. Resistance is weak at this point. The catch ...
 
- must be 45mpg or above
- limited to 75,000 licenses (controlled by decals)
- raise the threshold to 3 persons (from 2) per vehicle to ride on HOV lanes for regular non-hybrid vehicles
- If passes, it would start on 01/01/2005
 
Currently, CA allows pure electric vehicles to ride on HOV lanes.
 
I guess that mean HL-hybrids, Lexus 400h and Accord-Hybrid wouldn't qualify. Prius and Civic Hybrids sales would go through the roof.
 
The right to ride on HOV lanes, my friends, worths much more than a few thousands $$$$. Time is money.
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HOV lane in CA by ch1133
Apr 10, 2004 (8:55 am)
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>>The right to ride on HOV lanes, my friends, >>worths much more than a few thousands $$$$. >>Time is money.
 
It is not few thousands $$$$. I have not seen any hybrids or electric (used or new) for sale below 15K
Since only well off citizens would be able to buy one and the rest of american bottomfeeders would be stuck in traffic I suggest thet anyone making more than 100K would be allowed in HOV lane.
Bring a copy of your tax return to prove to the cop that you qualify
#124 of 3943
ch1133 by backy
Apr 10, 2004 (9:47 am)
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FWIW, used Classic Priuses regularly sell for under $15k in my town. There's also a frequent poster in the hybrid-related boards here who picked up a used Insight for $10k.
 
Also, Civic Hybrids and Priuses sell new starting at just over $20k. Since the average price of a new car these days is over $27k, I don't agree that only "well-off" citizens will be able to buy one. As for the HL hybrid and RX400h--well, those will take some bucks. But they won't qualify for CA's HOV lane exception anyway, nor will the Accord hybrid.
#125 of 3943
Well - I gave up waiting for a Prius by lucas
Apr 11, 2004 (7:53 am)
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Bought a 2004 Honda Civic Hybrid Friday. Haven't driven it much. It's so different from any other car I've owned that I'm spending a lot of time going from the manual to the car and back.
 
My only reservation was would it have enough pickup to fight the good fight in heavy traffic. It does.
 
I'll keep it until enough new hybrids are being built that I can get exactly what I want and then trade it.
#126 of 3943
HOV lane in CA by landdriver
Apr 11, 2004 (10:03 pm)
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I live in CA and heard the talk about allowing hybrids in the carpool lanes. My main concern is after about 10 or 20 years from now when most cars are hybrids and thus would fill-up the carpool lanes what will legislators do then? Raise the MPG limit even more so that hybrids that used to be able to use the carpool lanes can no longer do so?
#127 of 3943
Re: HOV lane in CA [landdriver #126] - more lanes for HOV? by ceric
Apr 11, 2004 (11:15 pm)
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Replying to: landdriver (Apr 11, 2004 10:03 pm)

How about allocating more lanes for HOV when that happens?
Currently, 1 out of 3 lanes at most. But, I think that would be at least 10 years away.
#128 of 3943
Walser in Bloomington, MN? What about Chicago proper? by ssachnoff
Apr 13, 2004 (2:28 pm)
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Yikes! If the Walser you're talking about, carguy and backy, is in Bloomington, MN and they are the "fifth largest in the Chicago region by sales volume (or so they claim)[and have]10 people on their HL hybrid preorder list already" then who are numbers 4, 3, 2 and 1 in that area?
 
I'm in Chicago and have been talking with a couple of dealers about the HL. Some know next to nothing and have no list. Others have two lists; one for Lexus and one for HL. I got myself off the former and onto the latter, supposedly at one south suburban place.
 
Anybody know who the top 4 Chicago region Toyota dealers are?
#129 of 3943
New Info on MSRP? / HOV in Va by dan_p
Apr 16, 2004 (7:23 am)
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Does anyone have any new info on MSRP for the Highlander Hybrid? I checked with my local dealer in late Jan. and they weren't starting a pre-order list because they didn't have price info.
 
Also, FYI for those talking about hybrids in HOV lanes. In my travels along I95 I have seen a ton of Hybrids in the HOV lanes because Virginia allows single passengers with Hybrids an exemption. Good policy in my mind.
#130 of 3943
Re: New Info on MSRP? / HOV in Va [dan_p #129] by backy
Apr 16, 2004 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: dan_p (Apr 16, 2004 7:23 am)

You might want to check with your local dealer again. My dealer wasn't taking preorders in January either, but in March they were and had 10 names on the list already, even though price is unknown. It's a no-risk proposition--if you change your mind, you can just get off the list (be sure there is no penalty for doing that and that you can get off the list for any reason).
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pricing by carguy1234
Apr 16, 2004 (9:10 am)
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I was told pricing will be set this summer (June/July). I have a pre-order in (since March), but have not worked the pricing details yet. I suspect 'grab your ankles' pricing though.

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