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#118 of 3943 Preorder list by backy Apr 06, 2004 (4:44 pm)
The closest Toyota dealer to me, which is fifth largest in the Chicago region by sales volume (or so they claim), has 10 people on their HL hybrid preorder list already--and that was as of last Saturday. But they have over 100 Prius buyers on the list, so it's possible (at about 10 Priuses per month) the HL buyers will get theirs before some of the Prius buyers do.
#119 of 3943 backy by carguy1234 Apr 07, 2004 (8:39 am)
Is that Walser? I bought at Burnsville, and was told I'd get the HL before a Prius due to the long Prius wait list.
#120 of 3943 Yes, Walser by backy Apr 07, 2004 (10:03 am)
#121 of 3943 Lucas, you might find the Acura NSX next by sdanders Apr 07, 2004 (3:12 pm)
generation interesting as they are planning (so I hear) to use electric motors at each wheel which will give the car well over 300HP from the 3.2L V6 that is currently in the car. Acceleration will be phenomenal....Great idea.
#122 of 3943 Just read the news ... HOV lane in CA by ceric Apr 10, 2004 (12:23 am)
A proposal is been strongly supported by our Terminator governor and other high-level state governor officials to pass the state law to allow Hybrids to ride on HOV lanes (we call car-pool lanes here). It went on to say that it is very likely to pass due to recent hike of gas prices. Resistance is weak at this point. The catch ...   - must be 45mpg or above - limited to 75,000 licenses (controlled by decals) - raise the threshold to 3 persons (from 2) per vehicle to ride on HOV lanes for regular non-hybrid vehicles - If passes, it would start on 01/01/2005   Currently, CA allows pure electric vehicles to ride on HOV lanes.   I guess that mean HL-hybrids, Lexus 400h and Accord-Hybrid wouldn't qualify. Prius and Civic Hybrids sales would go through the roof.   The right to ride on HOV lanes, my friends, worths much more than a few thousands $$$$. Time is money.
#123 of 3943 HOV lane in CA by ch1133 Apr 10, 2004 (8:55 am)
>>The right to ride on HOV lanes, my friends, >>worths much more than a few thousands $$$$. >>Time is money.   It is not few thousands $$$$. I have not seen any hybrids or electric (used or new) for sale below 15K Since only well off citizens would be able to buy one and the rest of american bottomfeeders would be stuck in traffic I suggest thet anyone making more than 100K would be allowed in HOV lane. Bring a copy of your tax return to prove to the cop that you qualify
#124 of 3943 ch1133 by backy Apr 10, 2004 (9:47 am)
FWIW, used Classic Priuses regularly sell for under $15k in my town. There's also a frequent poster in the hybrid-related boards here who picked up a used Insight for $10k.   Also, Civic Hybrids and Priuses sell new starting at just over $20k. Since the average price of a new car these days is over $27k, I don't agree that only "well-off" citizens will be able to buy one. As for the HL hybrid and RX400h--well, those will take some bucks. But they won't qualify for CA's HOV lane exception anyway, nor will the Accord hybrid.
#125 of 3943 Well - I gave up waiting for a Prius by lucas Apr 11, 2004 (7:53 am)
Bought a 2004 Honda Civic Hybrid Friday. Haven't driven it much. It's so different from any other car I've owned that I'm spending a lot of time going from the manual to the car and back.   My only reservation was would it have enough pickup to fight the good fight in heavy traffic. It does.   I'll keep it until enough new hybrids are being built that I can get exactly what I want and then trade it.
#126 of 3943 HOV lane in CA by landdriver Apr 11, 2004 (10:03 pm)
I live in CA and heard the talk about allowing hybrids in the carpool lanes. My main concern is after about 10 or 20 years from now when most cars are hybrids and thus would fill-up the carpool lanes what will legislators do then? Raise the MPG limit even more so that hybrids that used to be able to use the carpool lanes can no longer do so? Replies to this message: ceric (Apr 11, 2004 11:15 pm) johnle (Sep 29, 2006 6:30 pm) newski3 (Sep 30, 2006 4:40 am) robroi (Oct 03, 2006 3:10 am) terryp2 (Oct 03, 2006 5:45 pm) and 1 more...
#127 of 3943 Re: HOV lane in CA [landdriver #126] - more lanes for HOV? by ceric Apr 11, 2004 (11:15 pm)
Replying to: landdriver (Apr 11, 2004 10:03 pm) How about allocating more lanes for HOV when that happens? Currently, 1 out of 3 lanes at most. But, I think that would be at least 10 years away. Replies to this message: johnle (Sep 29, 2006 6:30 pm) newski3 (Sep 30, 2006 4:40 am) robroi (Oct 03, 2006 3:10 am) terryp2 (Oct 03, 2006 5:45 pm) cdptrap (Oct 03, 2006 5:49 pm)

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