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Dodge Ram Pickup 2500, Engine, Fuel System, Diesel, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Truck
Dec 13, 2003 (6:19 am)
I have a question for you. Why are you looking at Dodges if you have driven Fords for the last 20 years? Don't get me wrong, the Cummins is, IMO, the finest diesel available from the big three in a light duty truck. I'm just curious if you don't like the Superduty for some reason. I'm not trying to start anything.
#7 of 15 rsaxton
Dec 16, 2003 (8:13 am)
"I have a question for you. Why are you looking at Dodges if you have driven Fords for the last 20 years? Don't get me wrong, the Cummins is, IMO, the finest diesel available from the big three in a light duty truck. I'm just curious if you don't like the Superduty for some reason. I'm not trying to start anything."
I have recently switched from Ford to Dodge too. I have had (last 10 years)Rangers, F-150 Supercab, F150 Supercrews (2whl & 4x4) and never had any major complaints or problems with them. I looked at the F250 and opted for the Dodge 2500 due to 1) Price 2) Rebate 3) F250 6.0 engine problems 4) F250 turns like a boat. I can run figure 8's around the F250 in the Dodge 5) Dodge has the folddown rear storage area too. 6) I couldn't find a Ford 6.0 in a stick. 7) Dodge dealer offered my $1500 more for trade-in than the Ford dealer. I didn't go for the GM Durmax because two of my friends have them and the auto trannies burned out between 40-55k miles.
Have had the Dodge for 2 months now, 4000 miles on it and really like it! I have to get use to the little nuisances of a diesel, like waiting 20 mins for the thing to get warm in the mornings (ordered the block heater plug/wire assembly). But, with the HO Cummins, 4x4, 3.73 limited slip rear, 6spd manual. I'm getting 21mpg on highway at 68-72mph and 18-19 around town. My FX4 Supercrew with 5.4 V8 averaged 16-17 hwy.
At about 8k miles I'm going to change over to synthetic in engine, trans, transfer case, frt and rear ends and gas mileage should increase up to 8%.
Hope that answers your questions.
#8 of 15 I was just curious.
Dec 16, 2003 (4:38 pm)
However, the comparison of the fuel mileage with the Supercrew really isn't fair. An F-250 diesel would get similar to what your Dodge is getting now. I have an F-350 that gets 18+/- mixed driving.
Jan 06, 2004 (7:49 pm)
May be a little too late but let me give you some advice.
1) morning warm up. You mention 20 minutes to warm up. I hope you arent letting it idle to do that. A diesel idling WILL NOT warm up on its own efficiently. Plus you get incomplete combustion at idle.
2) DO NOT add synthetic engine oil at 8k miles. You need to go to Cummins website and read their information. They specifically state to not use synthetic fluids in engine until 15-20k miles.
#10 of 15 Synthetic Oil and Warm Up
Jan 08, 2004 (12:40 pm)
Hm...I must be reading the wrong info from the cummins site;
"Cummins recommends that you not use synthetic motor oil during the break-in period of 5000-20,000 miles, based on the type of driving, to allow proper seating of the piston rings. Beyond that mileage it is OK to use synthetic oil."
Nope, not letting it idle that long. I bought the blockheater cord and installed. It helps alittle bit, but not like a recirc style in-line heater. Only let warm up for 5 min before running down the road...but it takes about 15 min for it to come up to operating temp. Not complaining or nothing, just a newbie getting use to the diesel...
#11 of 15 I was just curious
Jan 08, 2004 (12:44 pm)
" However, the comparison of the fuel mileage with the Supercrew really isn't fair. An F-250 diesel would get similar to what your Dodge is getting now. I have an F-350 that gets 18+/- mixed driving."
You're correct...I was just stating that I'm getting better fuel mileage with a 3/4 ton diesel powered vehicle than a 1/2 gas burner...Yes, both Dodge and Ford diesels have comparable fuel mileage numbers.. Sorry for any confusion.
Jan 08, 2004 (3:42 pm)
I was afraid that you were trying to compare the two. I used to drive 1/2 ton gassers also that got in the 14's. I was grinning from ear-to-ear the moment I found out my new truck got over 18.
#13 of 15 6 cylinder Cummins
Feb 12, 2004 (8:08 pm)
My son has been looking at a 2001 Dodge quad 4x4 with a 6 cylinder diesel. Since we know nothing of diesels, can anyone comment on the 6 cylinder. The most towing he will do is with a 2 horse trailer.
#14 of 15 Two horse
Feb 13, 2004 (1:16 pm)
trailer and a cummins...the engine will hardly notice the trailer behind it. Will pull it with no problems what so ever and get good mileage doing it (compared to a gas or other diesel). Also a note, a co-worker has a well taken car of 94 cummins...195,000 miles and no leaks still running strong!!!
Feb 18, 2004 (11:58 am)
The inline 6 cyl engine design is very popular in applications that permit the use of a long engine block under the hood.
The inline 6 cyl design is inherently naturally balanced. This allows for low wear and tear on vital engine components.
I have not heard a great deal of complaints about the reliabilty of the Cummins diesel. The automatic tranny Dodge puts behind it is another story completely. It has been the source of a great number of failures and problems. I would only recommend a Dodge if it has a manual tranny.