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#82 of 1446 2005 Grand Caravan Towing
Feb 14, 2004 (11:13 am)
Was about to buy a Quest when I found out through these postings how close the 2005 Caravan was to the market (weeks, not late fall as led to believe in other post sites).
I'm interested in pulling a boat with my minivan and need 3500 # towing capacity. Does anyone know how high a trim level you have to go up to for being able to obtain this option or how much it costs? Is it like Freestar with only 2000# out of the chute, later to try to get 3500#? Sienna doesn't even list the trailer hitch as an accessory or in an option package on their web site so hard to understand cost. I know you can get it on that vehicle, but how how up you have to go in trim level I'm not sure. Nissan stands out in this way as the only minivan I have found that can be had for $25000 MSRP with a hitch installed. Maybe Chrysler/Dodge will meet or beat them now. At that $25000 price point I would hope the Grand Caravan could be had with a CD player, side curtain airbags, reading lights in all three rows, and rear air conditioning. This is where Freestar fell on its face. They will be lucky to unload what they have built already at Ford.
#83 of 1446 laundryguy
Feb 14, 2004 (11:58 am)
Well, I've got good news and bad news. First the good news; for 2004 (I am unsure what difference in towing capacity the 2005's will have), certain Grand Caravans can be optioned to pull up to 3800 pounds. The bad news is that only the two most expensive versions can be so equipped. According to the DC web site, the following is true:
Grand Caravan SE -- 1800 lbs. -- $24,975 base
Grand Caravan eX -- 1800 lbs. -- $27,225 base
Grand Caravan SXT -- 1800 lbs. -- $30,335 base
Grand Caravan SXT AWD -- 3800 lbs. -- $32,660 base
Grand Caravan Anniv. Ed. -- 3800 lbs. -- $33,050 base
FWIW, I cannot tell if there is any REAL difference (other than the SXT AWD of course) in the drive train in any of the vans other than the SE, which has only a 3.3 liter mill as opposed to the 3.8 in all of the rest. Could it be that the only real difference is marketing? I don't know, I suggest you ask a dealer and see if he/she really knows, or if they feed you a line of horse hockey.
I hope this helps.
#84 of 1446 pricing 2005
Feb 14, 2004 (12:41 pm)
I went to the Chrysler website and all I see is pricing for the 2004.
BTw, I checked out a 2005 Caravan SXT. The Stow and Go is terrific. The comfort of the seats in the second and third row is about as good as my 2002 T&C. A brillant piece of engineering.
#85 of 1446 2005 Town & Country First Impressions
Feb 14, 2004 (3:40 pm)
I visited a local central Wisconsin Chrysler dealer who got about 10 of new ones in on Thursday today. I had been waiting to make a buy decision until I had seen this vehicle since it was so close to market. Here is what my impressions were on the new 2005 Chrysler:
*Out of sight sticker shock. The unit I looked at had $31,000+ list (Tour edition), but no side curtain protection at that price. Had most of the other bells and whistles. Sliding side doors seemed very well done - as good as the Honda in my book.
*The rear and front stowing seats was very thought out in many ways. They accomplish the stowing front seats by raising the step in floor height about 1 inch. The inside dimensions are not compromised. A look under the chassis shows lots of tubes and pipes routing their way around the sunk in depressions to receive the seats.
*The rest of the car is hardly touched beyond these areas. On the outside, they are nearly indistiguishable.
*The head rests, although not required to be removed to tuck the seats are extremely small and have little padding when compared to Quest and Ody. In fact, a poorly belted rear seat person will be badly injured by the exposed metal posts when extended, should an accident occur with front impact.
*The floor where the seats stow were sturdy under my 190 lbs, but my wife and I wonder about their durability from being walked on relentlessly, places for grime to hide. The front seat must be positioned a certain amount forward to allow the cover to be lifted up to set the seat in the well. It folded extremely flat - improved over Quest concept.
*Third row 60/40 split was really easy to fold and this is a huge advantage over Freestar and comparable to Sienna. Gives lots of seating options for family of 6.
*The leg room in the third row is better than the Freestar, but worse than Ody and Quest. You cannot stick your toes under the second row seat when in the third row seat. Quest fabric cover at least gets the toes under the second row seat to gain some foot space.
*This vehicle is better than Freestar in many respects, but in the end, we signed for an Ody LX today at $2000 less than MSRP when equipped the way we want it, which would have been several thousand less than the Chrysler to get the 3500 lb towing. Gave up the side curtain protection that the Quest has standard and the Sienna offers as an option. Just couldn't get past the Quest noisy fan when on high and less than solid fits on several other components.
Feb 14, 2004 (3:44 pm)
Went to the local Dodge/Chrysler dealership today to see the new TC. Wow was I impressed! Did anyone else notice that the dashboard has a better feel to it compared to the 04s and before??
#87 of 1446 No All-Wheel Drive on DC 05 Vans
Feb 14, 2004 (8:23 pm)
I received an e-mail for DC confirming that they have dropped the All-Wheel Drive option for all of their new 2005 vans. They seem to be justifing it by stating that only 3% of customers purchased AWD on 2004 vans.
I personally believe that DC dealers not ordering AWD vans in sufficient numbers in mid-range equipped models was also a big part of the problem.
Feb 15, 2004 (5:56 am)
I personally like the new Town & Country and Grand Caravan over the Freestar and Relay. The only things that kept me from buying a Grand Caravan in 2002 were the non-flat folding third row seats and the previous reliability track record.
#89 of 1446 laundryguy
Feb 15, 2004 (11:33 am)
whats done is done, but i feel badly that your salesperson didn't seem to do a very good job presenting the vehicle to you. The '05 Touring is closer in equipment to the EX Ody. It has huge advantages over the LX (at least a dozen I can list w/o effort), so it should have more value at time of sale.
#90 of 1446 Saw one
Feb 15, 2004 (1:54 pm)
a silver 05 Town & Country Touring at the stoplight with dealer tags.
#91 of 1446 New T&C engines ?
Feb 16, 2004 (9:56 am)