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#480 of 1446 Mini van sales
Feb 19, 2005 (2:46 am)
"DaimlerChrysler Canada reports January Sales up 21.2 Percent
Tuesday February 1, 5:37 pm ET
- DaimlerChrysler minivans continue growth, Dodge Caravan sales up 48.6 percent - Jeep(R) Grand Cherokee posts sales of 906 units, up 73.9 percent - Chrysler Pacifica sets new sales record with 429 units, up 59.5 percent"
"To date, Chrysler Group has sold more than 1.3 million minivans in Canada and over 10 million minivans worldwide. In Canada, DaimlerChrysler continues to be the leader of this segment, with 34.9 percent of the minivan market. Dodge Caravan was the best-selling minivan and second most popular selling vehicle in Canada for 2004."
#481 of 1446 Stow and Go, 6 times higher than Honda, Toyota
Feb 19, 2005 (2:57 am)
Auburn Hills, Mich., Jun 07, 2004 -Due to the popularity of Chrysler Group's 2005 Chrysler and Dodge Minivans with the Stow 'n Go TM seating and storage system, the company today announced plans to invest $113 million at its St. Louis (Missouri) South Assembly Plant to accommodate increased Stow 'n Go production. The investment will be put towards the tooling, facility and process changes needed to add flexibility, enabling the plant to build short-wheelbase, long-wheelbase and Stow 'n Go minivans on the same production line. Previously, Chrysler Group only manufactured Chrysler and Dodge minivans with Stow 'n Go at its Windsor (Ontario) Assembly Plant.
"Today's announcement reinforces the company's commitment to our minivan heritage and our manufacturing facilities, creating greater flexibility in our product offerings and the way in which they are built every day," stated Frank Ewasyshyn, Chrysler Group Executive Vice President, Manufacturing. "We also show through our actions that supporting our existing plants in urban America is fundamental to achieving our long-term corporate objectives."
Consumer reaction in early market research clinics for the 2005 Chrysler and Dodge minivans was a home run. Prior to launch, Chrysler Group conducted an extensive survey to gauge response to the exclusive Stow 'n Go seating and storage system, comparing it to every competitor in the market. Overall, Stow 'n Go scored six times higher than Honda Odyssey and Toyota Sienna.
#482 of 1446 Re: Stow and Go, 6 times higher than Honda, Toyota [marine2]
Feb 19, 2005 (11:05 am)
Where is the info to support "Stow and Go, 6 times higher than Honda, Toyota"? Just what is the "6 times higher"? (sales, depreciation, or some other item?).
My 2002 T&C LX has much better space under the 2nd row seats for the feet of the 3rd row passengers than the 2005 T&Cs and GC's with Stow and Go. The 50/50 split 3rd row seat is also much more comfortable than the 60/40 split Stow and Go 3rd row...even sitting in the middle over the split.
For me, the seats in the 2nd and 3rd rows of the 2005 Odyssey are more comfortable than those of the 2005 DC minivans while the driver and front passenger seats are equally comfortable.
It appears that DC now offers the GC SE with 60/40 rear Stow and Go while retaining the bench seat 2nd row or traditional, optional 2nd row bucket seats. (Not to be confused with the GC SE Plus that has 2nd and 3rd row Stow and Go). Now DC needs to have the overhead console with compass/outside temperature and trip computer as an option on the GC SE.
#483 of 1446 Re: Stow and Go, 6 times higher than Honda, Toyota [hansienna]
Feb 19, 2005 (9:17 pm)
"Where is the info to support "Stow and Go, 6 times higher than Honda, Toyota"? Just what is the "6 times higher"? (sales, depreciation, or some other item?)."
you'd have to ask Chrysler
"For me, the seats in the 2nd and 3rd rows of the 2005 Odyssey are more comfortable than those of the 2005 DC minivans while the driver and front passenger seats are equally comfortable"
I think you are right. But I see the Dodge/Chrysler vans a lot different than the Honda and Toyota vans. All three will carry passengers fairly nicely. But I think the Dodge/Chrysler has a lot better advantage of carrying other things that I don't think many would want to put in their Honda/Toyota vans. Such as drywall, 2X4's,plywood, bags of cement, etc. Even if you take the middle seats out of those vans, they're really finished off to nice to want to haul anything more than baseball bats, gloves, socker balls,etc. I think a person really needs to think of all the things he would use his van for, before deciding what kind to get.
#484 of 1446 Stow 'n Go.....etc...
Feb 20, 2005 (6:04 am)
Stow 'n Go was a major factor for me in choosing the GC SXT over a Honda (just can't warm up to Toyota Styling). I had a Chevy Venture and was tired of taking the seats in and out, storing them someplace etc. I wonder if those paying close to sticker for a Honda/Toyota wonder about the price difference, putting that $$$ in the bank instead, when they talk about superior resale value down the road. My SXT was about $7k less than a Honda EX (rebates, supplier discount etc..)
I do agree with Marine2 on the interior finish of the DCX vans vs. Japanese. Of all the Minivans out there, DCX's have the cheapest interior. One of the benefits though, I believe the interiors will be easier to keep clean, having reconditioned cars for years in college.
As far as seat comfort in 2nd and 3rd?? Mostly the kids are back there, usually jumping around anyways.
My complaints: I HATE the armrests....a molded piece of hard plastic, that my arm can't rest on for too long!! I'm sure it's a lot cheaper to produce vs. a padded, cloth cover one like in the Japanese version. Is there an aftermarket solution?????
Here in Detroit, I'm hearing the Freestar is dead due to very poor sales. This is what happens when you don't even try to "follow" the competition!! Ford thinks "hey!! lets put a new name on the winstar, update the interior a bit and people will buy em"!!!!
The next Gen DCX Minivans are being designed by Ralph Gilles (of Chrysler 300C fame). They're suppose to be radically different. Knowing Ralph, they will be!!! He once tricked out a DCX minivan for racing with a 300M engine, Viper brakes and wheels etc!!
#485 of 1446 Re: Stow 'n Go.....etc... [dennisctc]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Feb 20, 2005 (7:56 am)
I bet you could find an upholstery shop that could rebuild your armrests. And Marine, tarps work great from keeping the 8 bushels of leaves or topsoil from ruining your interior (I used old blankets when I moved to handle the washer/dryer, frig, etc.).
Nissan tried a radically different van and sales are disappointing. DC has a better track record with styling though (the PT Cruiser for example).
#486 of 1446 Which did you use?
Feb 20, 2005 (9:43 am)
"And Marine, tarps work great from keeping the 8 bushels of leaves or topsoil from ruining your interior (I used old blankets when I moved to handle the washer/dryer, frig, etc.)."
You can do that in any of the vans,(tarp). Did you move the washer/dryer, refridge in your Dodge? I think I hear you also have a Honda. I can't see hardly anyone putting those in a Honda or Toyota even with a pad down. You would diffently have to take the middle seats out if you did.
#487 of 1446 Re: Which did you use? [marine2]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Feb 20, 2005 (9:55 am)
The '99 Quest. I hauled a side-by-side frig in it across town with the door shut (I threw away my middle bench the first year we owned it). I knew I was going to drive it forever, so a few dings and dirt don't bother me anyway.
#488 of 1446 Re: Stow 'n Go.....etc... [dennisctc]
Feb 21, 2005 (7:13 pm)
..."The next Gen DCX Minivans are being designed by Ralph Gilles (of Chrysler 300C fame). They're suppose to be radically different"...
That scares me and would be the clincher for me to buy the Odyssey instead of a Grand Caravan.
I do not like radical styling such as in the new Quest, Pontiac Aztek, Dodge Magnum, oval Taurus, AMC Pacer, AMC Gremlin, etc.
Ford killed the Taurus with a radical styling and DC might do the same to their minivans if they make a radical styling change.
#489 of 1446 Re: Stow 'n Go.....etc... [hansienna]
Feb 21, 2005 (8:19 pm)
I'll agree with you on all those cars except the Dodge Magnum. I think that is sharp.