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#290 of 1446 Re: Grand Caravan SXT versus Nissan Quest [leotaur]
Sep 05, 2004 (7:35 pm)
If you like Nissan and have good experience, buy the Quest. Warranty work on either the Quest or GC SXT is NOT very likely to be needed. BUY the vehicle that you like the best and do not worry about a possible need for warranty work.
I had very bad experience with a 1970 Dodge van and said I would never own another Chrysler product. Now some 30 years after getting rid of it, I recently bought a pre-owned (used) 2002 Chrysler T&C that has gone just under 27,000 miles.
One son got a new 2001 Ody EX in 2001 and and another son got a used 2002 GC Sport in Spring 2003 for about half the money. The GC Sport is quieter, smoother riding, has more nice features than the Ody even though the Ody "Magic Seat" and more flexible 2nd row seating give the Ody that advantage.
#291 of 1446 Re: Grand Caravan SXT versus Nissan Quest [leotaur]
Sep 13, 2004 (6:28 pm)
On Saturday we went for test drives of the Quest and the DGC SXT with leather. To our surprise we preferred the ride and handling of the DGC as well as the seats system, and so despite the enviable new look of the Quest, and in part because of the uncertainty of warranty coverage while in Mexico with Nissan, we have ordered a black DGC SXT with Premium Group and Khaki leather seats, and we have accepted the fact that we will look like the 10 million others who have bought Chrysler vans! Doug
Sep 19, 2004 (6:31 pm)
Have been tossing the idea of purchasing a GC SXT 2004 loaded. We are currently car payment free and have nothing to put down... would prefer to sell one vehicle person to person instead of trading in... The price tag was around $30,000, not mentioning taxes, transfers etc...
I have been trying to become a very informed buyer before even going to the carlot...have been to this site and carbuyingtips.com...
I have the tvm price which was about 20,000 or so invoice. Is it unreasonable to offer 20,000 even though MSRP is over 30,000?
((We have already obtained financing as first time buyers we were sitting ducks for high APR with having little credit and no down payment))
My wife and I have also considered a new 2004 Chevy Venture as I get a GM discount. The features really don't even come close...but the price is definately better!!! Should we inform the dealer of this? Would they be able to match a GM Discount?
Should we have insurance information available before we even go to the carlot arranged through our insurance company? Just in case?
Thanks ahead and all advice is greatly welcome!!
Sep 19, 2004 (6:34 pm)
Also, sorry, but is this a good time to purchase? When will the 2006's become 'it' and 2005 be deeply discounted? Is there more rebates/incentives toward the end of the year? Chevy right now is offering some good deals I guess...
#295 of 1446 Re: Grand Caravan SXT versus Nissan Quest [leotaur]
Sep 23, 2004 (6:08 pm)
Just a comment. You can get the Grand Caravan equipped with both a sunroof and side curtain airbags, just not so equipped direct from Chrysler (as stated in their brochure). We just purchased an SXT with side curtain airbags, and after inquiring from several sources, were told that a sunroof could be installed aftermarket. It's more pricey that way (about $1100 vs. factory cost of $895), but installs in the same roof frame slot as the manufacturer would use.
I asked why the factory won't install both. Did you ever ask people who don't know directions, but tell you anyway? One dealer told me that installing a sunroof would require them to cut out support beams that impeded vehicle stability and safety. I thought about this, and realized that it was unlikely that the van is crafted with two different roof designs (one for sunroof, one without), so I dismissed this.
It was speculated that the side curtain bags would not work with a sunroof. I asked a national after-market installer in Dallas, American Sunroof. They said that the side curtain airbags are not affected, that they pull them out, install the wiring, etc as needed for the sunroof, then reintall them and this does not affect their safe operation. They also said that, yes, they do cut a beam or two in the roof, but then reinstall different beams that more than make up for the lost beams. The person to whom I spoke sounded very knowledgable, which may account for nothing, but I believe him.
FYI, my dealer wanted to charge me $1800 to install an aftermarket sunroof. I found out who they used, and they quoted me $1095. What an incredible markup! This capped a very difficult sales experience, so it didn't surprise me. Be wary!!
#296 of 1446 Re: Rebate on T&C [rcf8000]
Sep 23, 2004 (6:13 pm)
Agree with edklein. The can charge you anything you are willing to pay. My dealer told me I wasn't eligible for the $500 Chrysler loyalty incentive, even though we were standing next to my Jeep Wrangler at the time. Another common practice: waiting until you are personally invested in the purchase and sitting with the finance person before they show you dealer price additions like document processing ($50+), dealer additions, advertising surcharges (yes, they try to charge you to send you mail. Unbelievable.)
Always walk in with invoice costs for the vehicle and options / option packages, and always know all the dealer adds and charges up front. And, of course, always be prepared to walk out the door.
#297 of 1446 Re: still can't decide... [acenj]
Sep 23, 2004 (6:17 pm)
It's a $3500 rebate through September 30 if you go with "regular financing" - higher rates, but not sure how high, or $2000 if you want 0% for 36 months, 0.9% for 48 mos or 1.9% for 60 mos. $500 of this incentive is for current Chrysler owners.
I'm 6' 1" and I thought the middle seats were fine (not great, but good enough). The rear seats are a bit tight, as I expected, but better than most.
Mileage is 18/25 officially, about 19-21 combined in real world driving.
#298 of 1446 Re: Advice [dragonjax]
Sep 23, 2004 (6:26 pm)
My opinion: by the 2005 GC SXT loaded. At least in TX, dealers have tons of them, and "fully loaded" seems a popular item (leather, DVD, side airbags, etc). Dealer MSRP for a fully loaded 05 GC SVT ranges from $31k to $33k, BUT invoice is $24.9 for the van plus destination, about $2600 for the leather group (pwr liftgate, htd pwr seats, leather, $532 for side airbags, $176 for 6 CD changer (sucks - get aftermarket). Plus, there is a $2k incentive PLUS 0%/36 mos or 0.9% 48 mos or 1.9% 60 mos financing.
So for about the same price or less, you get a more versatile, functional van. If you DO decide to stick with the 04, there is no way in hell that they should charge MSRP. My guess: they will soon discount the 04's such as you want substantially. Good luck.
#299 of 1446 Are owners manuals online?
Sep 23, 2004 (6:32 pm)
Does Dodge or anyone else have their Grand Caravan 05 owners manuals online? I have a loaner and I'm trying to figure out how to program the garage door opener, but they didn't give me the manual.
Many thanks. - PDM