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Replying to: frogger123 (Feb 06, 2006 9:44 pm) 0W oil flows better when cold meaning that the oil in your engine is already flowing before the engine has even started, even in frigid arctic conditions. In the case of Mobil-1, their 0W oils meet the following specifications: 0W-30 - GM 6094M, GM 4718M (Corvette spec) - Ford WSS-M2C929-A - ILSAC GF-4 - API SM/CF - ACEA A1/B1 0W-40 - Mercedes MB 229.5 - BMW Longlife 01 - Porsche Approval List 2002 - VW 502.00/505.00/503.01 - GM-LL-A-025 (gasoline) - GM-LL-B-025 (diesel) - ACEA A3, B3/B4 - API SM/CF1 This means that these two oils happen to have the most certifications of any other Mobil-1. In theory, I doubt that 0W oils have much of an advantage beyond the cold start, however, due to the extra additive packages that Mobil puts in their 0Ws, they happen to be their best oils. For our two DGCs, I use 0W-30 when I can find it, otherwise I use 5W-30, which by the way only carries the following certifications: - GM 6094M, GM 4718M (Corvette spec) - Ford WSS-M2C929-A - ACEA A1/B1 - ILSAC GF-4 (API Certified - Starburst) Best Regards, Shipo |
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| Need advice. I am selling in N.J., my 2004 Touring, white, 11,600 miles, excellent condition, power liftgate, power doors, trac control, clean title. On trade the dealer is offering $14,200. What would be a fair selling price if put in local paper? The depreciation rate is amazing on this van, orig msrp was $31k. | |
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Replying to: marine2 (Feb 05, 2006 2:04 pm) 
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Replying to: fish8 (Feb 07, 2006 8:02 am) Best Regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: shipo (Feb 07, 2006 8:13 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Feb 07, 2006 4:10 am) Mobil 1 0W-40 is a European spec formula which emphasizes engine protection and long oil life instead of maximum fuel economy, which is typical of most European spec oils (although you indicate it DOES pass the SAE "SM" requirement, which has at least some fuel economy - friction modifier - requirements). One of the things I learned about this oil, when I had a couple of VW's that required it, is that it is formulated at the "thin" end of the 40 weight specification, so it is only a little thicker than a typical 30 weight oil, and should therefore have a neglible effect on mileage. BTW, unless an oil is loaded up with unstable viscosity index improvers, which a full synthetic won't be, the important number for "warmed up" operations is the second number - don't get scared off by the "0" part of the multi-grade (or by the "5" in typical oils). True, if you are buying a cheap dino oil (house brand Autozone, or Walmart's Supertech), then a 10-30 might hold its viscosity on the freeway in the desert better than a 5-30 from the same blender, and might be closer to "30" after 3,000-5,000 miles of driving have sheared down the viscoscity index improvers - but if you have full synthetic, those oild WILL stand up to heat better, hold their grade a lot longer, and seldom shear down to a thinner weight. That's one of the reasons I think full synthetic oil changes are the way to go, and since Walmart offers them for about $30 including parts (the oil itself is $25-28 of that, depending on the current sale price for the oil), labor, and fluid top-offs, there's no real financial reason for shortchanging the quality of lubricants we run in our vehicles.
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Replying to: marine2 (Feb 07, 2006 9:31 am) On the other hand it could be a good guess - Chevy just made their minivans more "truck-like" in appearance and the manufacturers are, in general, desperate to "take back" the minivan from soccer moms (which is kind of silly, since soccer moms have moved on to SUV's anyway) and make them more "man friendly." (I'm not making this up, sadly.)
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Replying to: micweb (Feb 07, 2006 11:25 am) Best Regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: shipo (Feb 07, 2006 4:10 am)
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Replying to: frogger123 (Feb 07, 2006 7:47 pm) 1998 DGC 3.8: API Certified (For Gasoline Engines) -- 5W-30 or 10W-30 2003 DGC 3.8: DaimlerChrysler MS-6395 -- 5W-30 or 10W-30 Now, here is the wierd thing, the only oils that I can find that meet the DC MS-6395 spec are 5W-20 oils. Go figure. If that isn't confusing enough, then there is the latest spec from DaimlerChrysler 229.1/229.3/229.5, and the only oils that I can come up with that match that spec are fully synthetic 0W-40 offerings (such as Mobil-1 0W-40). So, my question is, "Does the 229.x standard superceed the MS-6395 standard?" I snooped around a little and couldn't find an answer to that one. Regardless, based upon everything that I've read, Mobil-1 0W-40 (and other 0W-40 fully Synthetic oils that meet the 229.x standard) are simply the best oils on the market for anything shy of all out hot weather racing. Best Regards, Shipo |
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