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Nissan Titan, Toyota Tundra, Exterior, Engine, Interior, Truck
Jun 16, 2004 (11:04 am)
I have 12k trouble-free miles on my 04 Toyota DC SR5 4WD TRD. I feel the cab is extremely quiet. My only complaint are the BFG OEM tires. The rugged trails are terrible in the snow & far from "rugged". They do provide a cushy comfortable ride in non-inclement weather. Plus I think Toyota could have put alittle more thought into the front captain chairs. The material/design are a far cry from the old SR5 Sport buckets they use to install in their pickups. I loved my old seats!! Otherwise, I towed an enclosed trailer all winter long & feel the engine has plenty of power. The Titan wasn't out when I purchased, but my neighbor has one, a 4WD extended cab & he is very happy with his truck too. My last Toyota gave me 10 years & went 170k. I guess that's why I stuck with Toyota. I owned a 2002 Explorer and liked that SUV as well. Honestly my choice came down to either another Explorer or the Tundra. All of these trucks are good choices IMO. Get out & test drive and see which one floats your boat!!
#289 of 354 Jimbob (#280) Chest Thumpin ?
Jun 16, 2004 (4:07 pm)
I used to pull a 4000lb boat with my Tacoma so I'm standing by my "If you're going to load it down" statement. As I said, if you're not going to work it too hard (4000lb boat) the Tundra's probably your best choice. It was the first "full sized" truck I test drove before I bought my '01 GMC 2500 HD.
Yes, mine IS bigger than yours and I work the heck out of it, but if you don't need something like that don't buy one.
On the other hand, it's pretty unrealistic for Tundra owners to claim thier "full sized" truck can hual half a ton while towing three and a half more.
#290 of 354 quadrunner501
Jun 21, 2004 (9:53 am)
That was a misprint. That was in the initial brochure but it is not true. Another person had posted that a long time ago and it was discounted. Nissan themselves say 87 octane which is not premium. You can call their 800 number and they will tell you this. There a thousands of owners who are using regular unleaded.
"Use unleaded regular gasoline with an octane
rating of at least 87 AKI (Anti-Knock Index) number(Research octane number 91)."
#291 of 354 Re: quadrunner501 [keanec #290]
Jun 22, 2004 (11:23 am)
Thanks Keanec for posting the exact wording from the owners manual.
You're probably right, but in the states, I believe the pump numbers are dervived by averaging R+M, research octane + some other octane method, I forget. If I averaged 87 AKI to 91 Research, I get 89 which while not premium, would still be mid-grade octane of 89. Clear as mud.
Jun 22, 2004 (1:37 pm)
clear as mud.....
#293 of 354 Maybe Japanese gas is different
Jun 22, 2004 (4:06 pm)
The owners manual for my Tacoma said reg/87 octane but the truck pinged and had no power unless I used 89 octane. maybe in Japan thier 9's look like 7's
#294 of 354 Re: quadrunner501 [quadrunner501 #291]
Jun 23, 2004 (1:10 pm)
No, the owners manual is American. They recommend 87 which is not mid grade in the states. (Nor in Canada) 87 AKI actually equals 91 Research. You do not average them to come up with a number. They are two different ways of measuring. Both 87 AKI and 91 Reasearch equal regular grade gas, not mid grade which is 89 AKI or premium, which is 91 (or so)AKI.
I am aware of some places which sell gas with less than 87 AKI - I don't think any car manufacturers recommend using this grade of gas in any new vehicle.
All said, the Titan uses the same grade of gas as the F-150, the Chevy and the Tundra.
Jun 24, 2004 (12:54 pm)
>>>I am aware of some places which sell gas with less than 87 AKI - I don't think any car manufacturers recommend using this grade of gas in any new vehicle.<<<
I live in one of those places, Denver Colorado. Here, regular grade is 85, mid is 87 and premium is 91.
That said, it is no problem using 85 in a Titan or any vehicle rated for (R+M)/2 = 87 AKI. The gasolines are formulated for our high altitude driving conditions. Combustion pressures are lower here due to the lower density of air means less oxygen. Of course it wouldn't be recommended that you fill up your boat here and drive it to the coast.
#297 of 354 at high altitudes...
Jun 24, 2004 (12:57 pm)
the octane is different because the oxygen content of the air is lower.
suburban detroit is at 1400 ft. above sea level, and there are places that carry 86 octane as regular.