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Nissan Titan, Toyota Tundra, Exterior, Engine, Interior, Truck
#1 of 354 Toyota Tundra vs. Nissan Titan
Dec 08, 2003 (11:13 am)
ok...pf_flyer...the titan is out now. please let us talk about it.
Dec 08, 2003 (9:44 pm)
As a Tundra "access cab" owner, I figured I would in time move up to the new Double Cab.
Then at the Austin Autoshow sometime ago there was the new Double Cab sitting close to the CrewCab Titan. The Double Cab wasn't even out yet, and the Titan was a prototype.
Nevertheless it was pretty obvious the differences sitting in one after the other back and forth a number of times. First, the Double Cab from the driver's position felt almost identical to my Access Cab, except the DC looked really long to the back, & it was hard to see over the high tailgate. And I'm 6'1. The biggest impression was how much more ergonimic the Titan was. While I feel like I have to adjust my body to the Tundra, everything just feels better in the Titan. The adjustable pedals are a nice touch.
From then on I started Titan research in detail. Later driving an early delivery Titan finally changed my mind. Now I'm buying one!
Tundra is a good truck, I just think the Titan is that much better.
Dec 09, 2003 (7:52 am)
Well I suppose that the Titan is officially out, but you couldn't sell me on the fact that it is out. I was out yesterday making a delivery and was near one of the larger Nissan dealers in the area. Not only did they not have any shipped to them yet, but Nissan has informed them that it could be another month before they see any. All that advertising on TV is pretty well wasted on a product that isn't really here. I got a nice broschure to look at. The truck will have a few very nice features and a few not so nice.
#4 of 354 jcmdie...
Dec 09, 2003 (12:08 pm)
i agree...my dealership is one of the largest on the zone, and we were just told that we MIGHT get ONE by the end of the month. i think nissan is dropping the ball
Dec 09, 2003 (9:10 pm)
Manufacturers do have target markets. For example manufacturers tend to supply first trucks to Texas market. Car manufacturers like BMW,MB first focus on California, East Coast, & some high income cities like Dallas.
Then there is supply/demand, and shipping. Initial demand on a solid product like Titan will outstrip initial production. Then there is shipping logistics. I know from prior similar situations, where vehicles get railed through extra ports on seemingly endless careening routes to reach what would otherwise be a short or straight shot from assembly.
However not getting one of the new models for a whole month seems extreme, even for the largest dealer in a zone. Maybe the dealer is not so large afterall...
#6 of 354 Maybe...
Dec 09, 2003 (10:38 pm)
They are building up enough stock to avoid the kind of price gouging that comes with short supply of a popular vehicle like what happened when Mazda first introduced the Miata.
Another posibility is a pre-production recall like what GM did with thier "01 HD series. It was six months late to hit the dealers and another year to work out the bugs.
I sincerly hope this is not the case.
#7 of 354 triat...
Dec 10, 2003 (8:17 am)
"Maybe the dealer is not so large afterall.."
we are 2nd in the zone in volume, and just spent $4 million to build the largest facility in the nation. we get alot of favors from nissan for that. also, the regional rep. told us that we would have the 'first and most' titans in the zone.
so far, noone has any, so thats SOME consolation.
Dec 10, 2003 (11:49 am)
They are out here (Atlanta area) and at several dealerships. I have read that Nissan is only introducing them into the market at 3 cities and Atlanta is one of them. Then judging from the success/failure/comments, they can make changes during production.
#9 of 354 just got word...
Dec 10, 2003 (4:34 pm)
im in louisville, and we will get our 1st one on the 15th. XE king cab 4X4.
#10 of 354 admasters
Dec 10, 2003 (6:29 pm)
I've heard the same about target markets from several other sources also.
I also think Nissan is making changes. I seem to remember Nissan announcing mostly KCab's in November-December, then Ccab's starting month later, like December or January.
Other than prototype Kcab at Austin Autoshow early November, I haven't seen a KCab since. Only CCab's coming in; and they're selling...