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what needs fixing by polo4
Jun 11, 2008 (11:14 am)
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Last week my car was running fine when all of a sudden the engine turned off while I was rolling at 40mph. No one was behind me so I put in in "N", while rolling, and started it again and continued to drive. Then, two days later, I came out from a store and the car would not start. While I had the key turned, there was a horrible buzzing sound coming from under the shift area center console. It continued until I removed the key.
 
 I shifted through the gears several times and it still would not start in P or N, buzzing continued, while key was in active positions. I finally got it to start in N after about 5 tries. Dealer can't duplicate and nothing shows up in computer. They thought it could be a sensor, but they said a sensor doesn't buzz.
 
 I am not sure if the two problems are related or separate.
 
Any ideas????
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Water in Nav by mikerr
Jun 17, 2008 (6:41 pm)
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I notices that when it rains or gets washed that there is water on the passenger floorboad right near the door. All the door seals look tight. Anyone have this or know where to look ?
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Re: license plate holder removal [mikerr] by tonynbarb
Jun 28, 2008 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: mikerr (Jun 03, 2008 8:07 am)

My front plate on the 04 got caught on something as we were backing up and it ripped off. I was stumped as to how to put it back on. I had it at the dealer and requested if they could do it. One of the guys there took out a rivet gun and still couldnt figure it out . I ended up having to go to a hardware store and buy some fasteners used for walls.
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Used Navigator by cacman
Jul 15, 2008 (4:44 am)
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I am thinking of purchasing a used Navigator. The price drop just makes these too good to pass up. I am going to look at 2003 or newer. I would appreciate any advice as to what years to stay away from, and any problems with certain options. Thanks
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Re: Used Navigator [cacman] by coltom
Jul 15, 2008 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: cacman (Jul 15, 2008 4:44 am)

we bought a 2004 - low mileage in mid 2006 - always loved the Navigator - especially the 'captain's chairs' in the back. We like the DVD player etc and still like all the amenities but I have to tell you, from a mechanical standpoint, its been the worst vehicle we've ever owned - Absolute nightmare. Had to replace the air suspension system, had three engine coils replaced, the HID headlight went out (cost $300 to replace), etc - We've been trying to trade it and no one wants it and its still a great looking SUV - bad mileage and premium fuel are a bad combo.
 
Everyone has a different story so read other's input -
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Re: Used Navigator [cacman] by wyngator
Jul 15, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: cacman (Jul 15, 2008 4:44 am)

I would say :::: Caution :::::: when considering this purchase. I just sold my 2003 Lincoln Navigator. I absolutely LOVED the vehicle but I spent a fortune on repairs. Especially the 2003 year is particularly bad (see consumer reports).
 
There is a major know flaw (TSB 06-05-13) that affects the left side cylinder head. My vehicle got to about 78,000 miles before that failed. The repair was huge $5,200 and I had to write letters to the dealership for them (and the Ford company) to help me with the costs. We wound up splitting it 3 ways. Then, a couple of months later I had the oil adapter fail and that caused the oil to leak into my coolant system. Another huge fix to repair and replace the entire coolant system (Radiator, coolant reservior, hoses, etc...). I had lots of electrical issue pop up over the years (because I had a loaded Navigator - the ultimate) but those were handled under my warranty plan which took me until 75,000 miles.
 
But, after dumping so much additional money into the SUV and being stranded on the road with the car overheating from the coolant problem, I just couldn't handle the un reliablity of the vehicle.
 
So, I would have to give this car a thumbs down on mechanical soundness. But, it is by far the nicest, cushiest car I have ever owned. I also own an Infiniti and an Acura. Navigator was the most luxurious but even more expensive to repair than my other two foreign cars.
 
I just traded in my Navigator and yes the trade in value was very low. But, honestly ..... I felt that "while it was running" I should hurry up and dump it.
 
I think you should opt for a newer year than the 2003. If you look at consumer reports you can maybe see which years have which problems.
 
OBTW, when I sold my Navigator ..... I decided to go back to my foreign car again because I needed reliability. I know that nothing is perfect ...... but we just bought our second Acura and I am satisfied with my purchase.
 
Good luck on your shopping ......
 
....Laurie
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Re: Used Navigator [wyngator] by akirby
Jul 15, 2008 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: wyngator (Jul 15, 2008 10:02 am)

I'd have to agree that a Navigator and Aviator would not be recommended. However, don't believe that it's a Ford thing necessarily. These vehicles were designed prior to Ford's current quality program plus they are body on frame SUVs which are naturally prone to more failures - even with imports.
 
Ford's newer vehicles (Edge e.g.) are proving to have better than average quality. You might consider a new Edge or Flex if you don't need the towing capacity.
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Re: Used Navigator [akirby] by wyngator
Jul 15, 2008 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 15, 2008 10:29 am)

Maybe you are right akirby.
 
 Unfortunately for Ford, I have been a loyal import purchaser of automobiles. I have owned a Datsun, Honda, Mazda, VW, along with the Acuras and Infiniti's that I already mentioned. My husband's ONLY stipulation when I was out shopping for my new vehicle last month was that it was NOT an American based company. His concern (and mine) is a simple case of what we have experienced. Our only BAD auto purchase was the Lincoln Navigator.
 
 Oh yes, we did own a Mercury Villiager Van (but that was a Nissan engine because it was basically the NIssan Quest and that was a reliable van). Nope ..... we cannot afford to "try" another Ford.
 
....Laurie
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Re: Used Navigator [wyngator] by akirby
Jul 15, 2008 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: wyngator (Jul 15, 2008 12:13 pm)

It's understandable that past experiences have jaded you. But Ford's quality gains are real and obvious. Who could have predicted that the Fusion would be virtually bulletproof while Camry and Accord have had major problems (engine sludge and transmission problems)?
 
Anything built after 2005 has seen better than average reliability. If you simply don't want to buy a Ford - that's fine. But don't buy an import strictly on the basis that it will be more reliable because based on current data the chances are good that it won't be.
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Re: Used Navigator [akirby] by wyngator
Jul 15, 2008 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 15, 2008 12:37 pm)

Well, you certainly *peaked* my interest. So, I pulled out my trusted Consumer Reports CARS '08 that I purchased recently for my own car purchase.
 
You are correct about the Ford Fusion. CR loves that car and their published data supports what you say. I see that they have data for 2006 and 2007 and so far it is all red circles and half red circles. A good report from CR.
 
 I would consider that vehicle as the years roll on and I see what many miles do on that car. I'd like to see it's performance at over 100,000 miles and also over 200,000 miles. I am the kind who likes to hang onto my cars and my infiniti is holding strong at 185,000 miles.
 
As for the CR of the Honda Accord and the Toyota Camry. They give them great reviews (all full red circles and half red circles) since 2004 each year. It looks like they took a dip in 2003 for the Accord. Toyota Camry is actually all great reviews from 1998 all the way through 2007. So, it looks like Camry is the winner overall.
Note: This is not true for the hybrid model. That seems to have an issue in one area. OBTW, Toyota Corolla and Honda Civic have outstanding reviews also. So there is no reported reliability issues there.
 
Also, it amazed me but the Honda Accord has no scheduled maintenance until the first 100,000 miles. I mean obviously tires and oil are happening .... but nothing else. Pretty amazing. I test drove but wound up not buying the Accord. One of the reasons was due to a disappointing crash rating on the 2008 for side impacts.
 
...Laurie

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