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#127 of 146 New "Commander"
Jul 21, 2004 (10:27 am)
Well, dwrestle, I don't know what Jeep has up their sleeve about their new 7-seater. I have seen some 'spy photos' of the vehicle being tested, but of course it is just an SUV wrapped up behind covers. I believe it is based on the GC chassis, but larger and more roomier with the ability to seat 7. I doubt it will resemble the "Rescue", though I must admit, that if that particular vehicle ever came to production lines, I would be the first in line to drive one home. I think it has been a long time coming for Jeep to step up and have a formidable large SUV, though for me personally, unless it is a concept Rescue vehicle, I think the GC is still the better sized SUV for myself. I love it's nimbleness and ruggedness with the handsome exterior. I am not fond of the Liberty's looks, even the Renegade still has a 'girl' like appeal to it. I know it is a very capable Jeep and lives up to the name, but it still seems as a 'female' vehicle to me, because so many of my female friends consider it 'cute'. That's just another reason I love the GC, I can't ever remember anyone calling it 'cute'. I personally don't need a cute 'ute. But I am not sure we need another 'confused' SUV truck hybrid running around. I mean enough with the SUV with a truck bed, get an extended cab pickup or a full size SUV, seems like a no brainer to me. But I agree with your assesment of the lack or roominess in the back seat for the GC, I hope their new Commander will have more than enough room.
#128 of 146 my JGC experience/'05 JGC
Aug 03, 2004 (7:38 pm)
I own a '99 JGC Laredo, V8. Bought it new and now have 126K miles.
Con: I am on my 3rd transfer case. First time, I torqued it real hard I was at 20K and it immediately blew. Under warranty and company put a rebuild in it. Thus, I didn't really care to investigate exactly what went wrong. Second time, I torqued it real hard I was at 95K and the chain inside the case broke. One little plate of the chain, which is made of steel, must've gotten very hot. It flew right through the aluminum case with laser precision. Quite impressive actually except for the fact that I lost all my fluid and I had to replace it again - this time on my dime. So far so good on the 3rd case. FINGERS CROOSED FELLOW OUTDOORS TYPES!
Also - it seems that power steering fluid leaked from the moment I bought the car and the dealer's report was that it wasn't leaking when in plain sight it was. I finally gave up and have driven it 126K miles and topped off the fluid every 6 months or so. No blood no foul.
Lastly, the stock '99 wheels are not cool at all. The more recent stock ones are better and I hope the '05 is improved or at least more wheel choices (LISTEN UP JEEP MANAGEMENT).
Pro: Other than the transfer case and steering fluid, my JGC has been 100% reliable. The engine runs very strong, great punch and my recent test drive of a Eddie Bauer Ford Explorer proved to me that my '99 JGC still has a better interior than a new Explorer, so that was satisfying. The storage capacity is excellent for a mid size SUV IMHO. I like the rubberized bumpers so that scratches don't show much. It still looks and performs better than many new style SUVs.
'05: I have been looking for a new SUV for a while and have tested everything. My conclusion is to wait for the new JGC or maybe the Hummer H3. I think the H3 will attract many of the same buyers. With a more squared off back and a 5.7 HEMI, I think the new JGC will lose some of it's 'soccer mom' stigma. Plus, the new two toned seats look great from teh few photos I have seen.
From what I understand there will only be painted bumpers???? Any clarification on this, anyone? It would be great if they continued with the option of rubberized/non painted bumpers for us city folk who have to dela with drivers in So Cal with no car insurance who don't care if they ding your rig. Plus, when I do go up in the hills, I don;t worry about rocks as much as I would if they were painted. That's just my request if Jeep is listening.
Looking forward to the new JGC and the H3 to evaluate.
Does anyone have an opinion on the JGC vs the forthcoming H3?
#129 of 146 Re: The New Jeeps [alishas4x4]
Aug 04, 2004 (2:58 am)
#130 of 146 I recently test drove a
Aug 06, 2004 (8:22 am)
Jeep GC Limited, on a hot day in Atlanta, almost no wind to speak of, and at 65 mph on the freeway, I could barely keep the vehicle in lane as I was fighting the 65 mph wind that I was creating by driving...why is this vehicle so popular if ordinary freeway driving is so difficult???...right after the GC test drive, I then drove a Durnago, with no problem staying in lane...I realize the Durango weighs more, but the GC is still the weight of an average vehicle, not, say, a Ford Fiesta or a Mini-Cooper...
#131 of 146 Re: I recently test drove a [marsha7]
Aug 06, 2004 (8:39 am)
I've had the same experience driving my bosses fairly new JGC on the highway. I was driving once on a windy day and it was pretty tough staying in my lane. Sadly, my Mazda B4000, which is also a 4x4 and is built on an ancient chassis tracks much better than his fancy and much more expensive Jeep.
My understanding is that the excuse is Jeep accepts wander on the highway in order to avoid the steering wheel whipping when you hit an obstacle off road. While I actually do occasionally drive off road, I would much rather have a car that steers well on the highway and be careful to not slam into something when I am off the pavement. I hope this is changed for the '05 version.
#132 of 146 The New Jeeps Are On The Way!
Aug 08, 2004 (6:46 pm)
Bringing this thread back on topic.....
The 2005 GC is on the way to dealerships. I commute between Toledo and Detroit daily, and the southbound car carriers are full of the new GC, bringing them out of Detroit.
Yes bumpers are painted on all models. The Laredos have black rub strips on the side, the Limiteds have painted rub strips with a chrome inlay. My local dealer in Toledo (Yark Jeep) is either hiding the '05's, or haven't gotten any in yet. My hunch is that they are hiding them, since Yark is one of the largest Jeep dealers in the country (how hard can it be to sell Jeeps in Jeep City USA?). No matter what they'll be in the showroom shortly!
#133 of 146 The New Jeeps Are [not] On The Way! by duxfan3
Aug 08, 2004 (10:20 pm)
The new Jeeps won't hit dealers until the end of September, at the very soonest. The official release date is in mid-October. Until then they are undergoing quality control inspection and will not be released to dealers.
#134 of 146 Just Talked to the Dealer in Buckhead / Atlanta
Aug 09, 2004 (5:53 am)
He said they are planning a preview event in mid October.
#135 of 146 The New GC's ARE Leaving The Factory
Aug 09, 2004 (6:28 am)
Sorry tloke1, but I'm seeing the new GC's leaving Detroit every day now. I was driving 75 north from Toledo this morning, and a truckload of them passed me going south. In this area it's very commom to see production mules, and early production models on the highway doing some final testing. That's not the case with these truckloads of GC's. Unless these vehicles are being shipped elsewhere for quality checks, or have failed and are being shipped to be destroyed, these are finished models that I'm seeing on the trucks. And they look great!
#136 of 146 The New GC's ARE Leaving The Factory by duxfan3
Aug 09, 2004 (1:00 pm)
The new GC's may be leaving the factory, but they are absolutely positively NOT headed to dealers, I can assure you of that. October 14th is the official release date, some dealers may get a few units a week or two before that date but no dealer will see them for at least another 6 weeks. Some units are being shipped to California this week for Camp Jeep which starts the week after. They will be for demo driving purposes only and will be destroyed after the show.