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Ford Explorer/Mercury Mountaineer Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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What is this discussion about? Ford Explorer, Mercury Mountaineer, SUV


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do Ford buyers use the internet? by kyfdx HOST
Jul 11, 2006 (4:59 pm)
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Maybe they are trading them all in for Honda Insights? Have you seen the price of gas?
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Maybe nobody by marsha7
Jul 11, 2006 (6:31 pm)
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has considered a Ford, lately???...sorry, just could not resist...
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Re: do Ford buyers use the internet? [kyfdx] by aspesisteve
Jul 12, 2006 (6:38 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 11, 2006 4:59 pm)

certainly I would agree with you that gas prices make SUV's a tougher choice, but they still sell many of them.
 
The Honda Pilot for example has many people posting their buying experience on Edmunds, while the Edmunds thread is completely silent.
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Re: do Ford buyers use the internet? [aspesisteve] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 12, 2006 (3:44 pm)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jul 12, 2006 6:38 am)

If we just went by the number of posts, the whole world would be full of Hondas and Hyundais...
 
I can't explain it, but there it is...
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I have wondered about the following: by marsha7
Jul 12, 2006 (6:00 pm)
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Most trucks and SUVs, like Explorers, seem to have truck type engines for the tork and towing capacity...yet many folks would never tow anything as they just need to carry capacity or the soccer moms feel safer in a large vehicle that sits above traffic...stick with me...
 
Also, many vehicle engines that are used in passenger cars, often with better mpg, are re-tuned for the truck tork which lowers mpg to "SUV range"
 
Would a manufacturer's option be reasonable/economical to offer, say, an Explorer with a passenger car engine with lower tork but better gas mileage...
 
If I knew up front that my new SUV would never tow anything, or if I was willing to forego the tork, maybe we could get another 5-7 mpg on the highway in an SUV by just making it with either the "truck engine option" or the "passenger car option"...I almost think that many folks would choose the "passenger car/better mpg" option because I would also bet that over 80% of SUVs will never see a tow hitch behind them...
 
Could this thought be viable???
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If you think that is bad... by mcdermott2
Jul 12, 2006 (6:59 pm)
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You think there are no posts on the Explorer? I am interested in the Mountaineer, of which I see everywhere in Northern NJ, that is even more depressing. No posts for leasing or buying.
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Re: I have wondered about the following: [marsha7] by aspesisteve
Jul 13, 2006 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 12, 2006 6:00 pm)

i've often wondered the same thing regarding a "car like" engine vs. a truck like engine in an SUV to improve milege. You can find examples such as the Pilot which uses the same engine as the Odyssey - this is a car like engine with great performance. The gas milege in the Pilot comes down due to weight. A Pilot V6 milege is slightly better than what Ford puts into the Explorer but not much. Even if you use the v8 by Ford vs. the V6 in the Pilot, there's not much of a difference.
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Re: I have wondered about the following: [aspesisteve] by mtnman1
Jul 13, 2006 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jul 13, 2006 6:26 am)

Even if you use the v8 by Ford vs. the V6 in the Pilot, there's not much of a difference.
 
Except for a huge difference in towing capability between an Explorer and a Pilot. I realize that wasn't exactly the point you were making, but the Pilot is in fact a glorified Mini Van. Same as the Highlander. That's why ford added the Freestyle and the new Crossovers they are introducing next year I guess. For people that like the feel of driving an Suv type vehicle, but really don't need an SUV. I like driving an SUV whether I tow or not. I'll pay the extra price in Gas for now, but will consider a change in a few years if Gas prices continue to rise. I'll never consider a Pilot. Can't stand the looks or the fact they are becoming the new Soccer Mom Mini Van.
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Re: why no posts? [aspesisteve] by explorerx4
Jul 13, 2006 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jul 11, 2006 3:49 pm)

maybe they don't feel the need to seek support for the price they paid.
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Re: why no posts? [explorerx4] by aspesisteve
Jul 14, 2006 (8:20 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jul 13, 2006 4:44 pm)

"maybe they don't feel the need to seek support for the price they paid"
 
I'm not sure what you mean by that.
Sure some ask on Edmunds if they got a "good" price, but you can't deny what a benefit it is to hear stories from other buyers who will go out and e-mail or fax offers to several dealers at once to see who will cave in the most.
 
Or you could always just ask the car salesman what a good price is
 
My guess is that a majority of Ford and GM buyers are old school buyers.

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