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Honda S2000, Convertible
#236 of 420 Re: 2004 - 2005 S2000 [prime time]
Jul 11, 2006 (2:41 pm)
Have you considered a new 2006? They can be purchased at around $31,000, whereas a used, low mileage 2004/5 will probably sell for $25,000+, at least in our area. For that relatively nominal savings, I'd rather have a new one with a full 3/36 warranty and the ability to break it in properly myself.
I do know of someone who bought a low mileage 2003 for $23,800, but he specifically wanted the previous 2.0 liter, 9,000 rpm engine. And the car he got had a transferrable 7 year 75,000 mile "Honda Care" warranty. He also knew the original owner personally and knew that the car had been broken in properly and meticulously maintained.
#237 of 420 Looking to lease soon, $400/month reasonable?
Nov 11, 2006 (3:45 pm)
I am planning on leasing an s2000 very soon and am going to start looking around for good deals this week. What should I be looking for a 3 year lease? I have 2 options right now. What I would really like is 0 down for not too much more than 400 a month (w/tax). Or if I have to resort to it, I can put down up to $2000 and but would be looking for payments not much higher than $350 a month. I know these are good deals, but are they reasonable? Based on what I have heard/read, people do often get deals like this. For example, one post on this forum states that a 0 down, $445/month (w/tax) deal for a 3 year lease is an "average deal." So is it far fetched to expect to find a great deal that nabs me the car for around 400/month? Thanks to all for reading and responding.
#239 of 420 New Honda 2007 S2000 cosmetic defect!
Nov 15, 2006 (7:40 am)
I just wanted to warn you about my S2000 experience. This past weekend, I purchased a brand new 2007 S2000 from a Honda dealership in Loma Linda, CA. They offered a terrific price, so I bought the car. I took a night delivery, so I couldn't fully inspect the vehicle, particularly the interior.
Over the next two days as I spent more time in the car, I noticed "bumps" on the dashboard. Think swells, each the size of the top of a pencil eraser. Some were larger, totaling about 10 of them. I lightly pressed on these bumps & found voids underneath (as opposed to the usual firm sponge).
I took it in to the local Honda dealership (Thousand Oaks, CA), & they said I'd have to yank out the entire dashboard & have it replaced. This is a massive job, & even dealers are reluctant to do it, in fear of subsequent rattles & follow-on issues (particularly electrical issues). Mind you, my car currently has less than 300 miles on it. Thus, the Honda in Thousand Oaks advise that I attempt to swap cars with the dealer from which I bought it, since this is what the Thousand Oaks guys would normally do (god bless them). Of course, the Loma Linda guys would not budge, & suggested that I have the dashboard yanked out for repairs. I was told it will be a week's worth of repair.
Goes to show: buyer beware. Who has ever heard of dashboard bumps/blisters nowadays on cars? As for me, this is a huge lesson learned. Even Honda's can have defects you'd last expect, & I assumed everything would be fine. Worse, some dealership will not work with you on this.
I have been dreaming about the S2000 for 8 years. Needless to say, I am quite disappointed, not so much by the car but much more by how this particular dealership treats their customers. They may "fix" it today, but I typically keep my car for 7 or 8 years, & with such a major repair I simply expect problems to follow down the road after the warranty is up.
Essentially, I just paid $33k for a brand new S2000 to have the interior yanked out & put back together again. It's like getting a new liver; you can put it a new one, but it'll never quite work right. Please beware & attentive of your purchases, even on simple things such as a dashboard!
Spread the word. Thank you for reading.
#240 of 420 Re: New Honda 2007 S2000 cosmetic defect! [ddanont]
Nov 15, 2006 (8:03 am)
Sorry to hear about your issue. I don't own a S2000 but have also desired one for a long time. Cannot bring my self to part with such a large amount of $ for a part time car. Seems like a Miata might be a better deal. I have an 2001 Accord with dash squeeks from day one. I took it back several times for a repair but none were sucessfully. I would also be leary about a dash replacement as it might create more problems than the consmetic issue it resolves. Then,if your patient and go to a good dealer, it might not be an issue.
I also bought a car years ago that the dealer had body work done on with telling me. I notice filler cracks some years later - too late to make a issue. I had another Accord that had some shipping body damage I did not see until I got home and washed the car (under the bumper dents from the tie-downs). The dealer fixed it without an issue fortunately. Typically Hondas are done right - so possibly something was done in shipping to damage the dash.
Enjoy the car
I am very careful about inspecting a new car now
#241 of 420 Lease option on 2007 S2K. Good deal?
Nov 15, 2006 (10:05 pm)
Dealership offers the following lease option for a 2007 S2000. Is this a good deal?
* Cost: $32,083. (invoice: 31,583)
* Will give me $12,200 for my 2004 Civic EX (I owe $7,500)
* With $2,000 down
Monthly payment: $385. + Tax X 48 months
0.00197 - 48% RES
#242 of 420 Re: New Honda 2007 S2000 cosmetic defect! [ddanont]
Nov 19, 2006 (6:54 pm)
I would not give up so easily on getting a new car, especially if you intend to keep it for 7-8 years. You were owed a car without obvious defects. It was unfortunate that you took delivery at night, but that doesn't eliminate their obligation.
If I were you, I'd talk to the general manager / owner of the dealership in person. I'd also try to get in touch with Honda North America customer service directly. Lastly, I'd check with a lawyer as to your legal recourse.
I had a 2002 S2000 for 2.5 years and 19,000 miles. It was arguably the highest quality fit and finish car I ever owned, or at least tied with my current (and slightly more expensive) Porsche 911S Cab. The S2000 is essentially hand built in Japan. I cannot imagine it left the factory in the condition you describe. The entire thing with your selling dealership sounds fishy.
Don't give up. You should be getting a new car or refund.
Nov 20, 2006 (7:44 pm)
I'm on the verge of paying off and owning my Honda Accord, and have saved up enough to splurge on an S2000. The problem is I live in Albany, NY, in an apartment community that has no covered parking.
How does the cloth top on the S2K hold up in the winters? Will it be damaged if its parked out exposed to the elements. I'm usually pretty punctual about keeping my car clean, so if I keep cleaning the car of snow regularly, do you think that will suffice?
Or do you think I should think about buying the hardtop for when I buy the car? Does Honda offer a Hard top as a manufacturer option?
Please let me know. I'm willing to brave the weather and drive the S2k everyday once I get it, but would want to defer my purchase decision if the cloth top can't keep the car protected in the winter....my other option was the Civic Si...but I already own an Accord, and would like to get a roadster.
#244 of 420 Re: Lease option on 2007 S2K. Good deal? [tametiger]
Nov 21, 2006 (7:02 pm)
- Based on my experience, leases are never a good deal, it only benefits the leasing company. If you are money conscious, get a loan not a lease.
The famous line that you can return the car the end of the lease and walk away is the biggest lie - you rarely walk away, they'll find some lame problem with the car at the time of return and the only way out is lease another car or buy it at a unfair residual value.
#245 of 420 Looking for advice on selling a used S2000
Nov 25, 2006 (8:28 am)
I'm selling my low mileage 2000 S2000, and I'm wondering what people have found is the best place on the web to advertise. What works best, what should I avoid? CraigsList is free, where other services such as Yahoo and AOL charge... are they worth the $$?